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Mapmaker
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The trade has, seemingly, gone without a hitch, and we've heard in from Rogi, Catherwood, and Sphinx. With everyone back safe and sound, Cather has scanned all the documents, I've organized them in the wiki and have done some tweaking, and Tonamel's begun the transcription.
To read the documents, go here on the wiki. There you will find everything. I'm kind of tired and will let others do some of the analysis. But factually, we now know that Bryce was admitted to the Pickman Psychiatric Treatment Facility (at 10 Barnes Street in Pickman, California) on May 27th, and his primary doctor has been Dr. A. Peters (with a mysterious visit from one "Dr J. Gateson" in late August).
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Tonamel
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I think the letters around the pentagram are referring to the original sentries. M=Marie, J=Jen, A=Alan, K=Kevin and... someone.
No clue what the IT in the center means.
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| I think I figured out his red doodles - numbers 1 and 2 together roughly sound like "Yog-Sothoth", and apparently number 3 means "oh my God!". Both appeared before in the azif.rtf document from the Trussed Swan HD. |
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Oh, god...Bryce...
These documents reach only as far as 9/12? Is he still there? No one's been able to reach him since...Marie... 
Insomnia is clouding my thoughts and my diction, and trying to take in all this at once is making me queasy. 295.2 = catatonic type schizophrenia. 259.9 = unspecified endocrine disorder, from the first page. Bryce felt what happened on August 28. He was connected to the dreamworld, too?
So much more in there. Ugh. Can't think straight anymore. Just glad that everyone's safe for now.
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Location: Santa Rosa, CA
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August 8th, 2007
Outpost Events
Bryce Events
Dr's memo 8/8 #1
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8/08/07 Droher, B
Patient became verbally and physically aggressive, restrained and administered 400mg Thorazine. Patient remained uncharacteristically verbal even after sedation, screaming at staff to remove his restraints and crying out for his father. Suggest immediate re-evaluation.
Bryce had been showing some mild signs of improvement before the episode. His friend wol who visited described him as a computer security expert and extremely intelligent, and I suspect our discussion of appropriateness of ECT might have triggered his outburst.
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August 13th, 2007
Outpost Events
Bryce Events
Dr's note 8/13 #1
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8/13
Patient presents few signs of catatonic schizophrenia, lacking stupor features or waxy flexibility but showing negative symptoms of avolition, alogic, and blunted effect.
"Who killed the birds?" -> "My uncle"
"Your uncle?" -> "Daddy says they don't"
"says they don't what?" -> "Have to stay dead"
Unclear if some responses seem meaningful simply for brevity. May be signs of repressed childhood abuse as trigger of initial psychotic break.
"Who do you want to warn?" -> "Marie"
"Warn her of what?" -> "we are all a ruse"
"what kind of ruse?" -> "the birds"
becomes agitated when questioned about his work
(spookactivink)
(promiseport)
(prayertocall)
(emfenerator)
= triggers neologistic speech
no signs of suicidal thinking
frustrated and dissmissive
rave responses show significant thought disorder including echolalia, neologism, and incoherence.
295.2 inappropriate, 259.9 as temporary diag until symptoms stabilize
Invega instead of Clozapine?
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August 20th, 2007
Outpost Events
Bryce Events
Dr's memo 8/20 #1
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8/20/2007
Droher, B.
[i]-Patient seems to be responding well to Invega. Asked for a
cup of water. Asked it it were Sunday.
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August 25th, 2007
Outpost Events
Bryce Events
Dr's Memo 8/25 #1
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8/25/07
Droher, B.
Became increasingly agitated and violent in day room. 500mg of
Thorazine administered and restrained. On re-examine, Bryce was
repeating "gate son" and "the parent eats the child" but was
sufficiently sedated. Floor reports confirm he was examined by
"Dr. Gateson" for a 2-hour period, but no notes were left in this
file.
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Dr's Memo 8/25 #2
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8/25/07
Droher, B.
Patent agitated in restraints. Calling out loudly for
"Daddy". 150mg Thorazine administered immediately
upon examination. Patent shows pressure of speech
with occasional echolalia around certain words. Lucky.
Daddy. "South of". No additional intervention taken.
Attempted to locate contact number for "Dr. J. Gateson"
from chart but didn't find anything: are we sure that's
the correct spelling?
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August 26th, 2007
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Bryce Events
Dr's Memo 8/26 #1
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8/26/07
Droher, B.
Restraints removed but kept in his room. Bryce seems extremely
agitated. Continues to mumble something over and over under his
breath, but withdraws when asked what he saying or asking him
to speak up. I'm not used to seeing him this animated.
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Dr's Memo 8/26 #2
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8/26/07
Droher, B.
Staff member reports that Dr. Gateson session was described
as hypnotherapy, but hadn't met that M.D. before. Assume
weekend kept examination from being fully documented in Bryce's
file
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Dr's Memo 8/26 #3
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8/26/07
Droher, B.
Patient extremely agitated and combative, 250mg Thorazine
administered immediately upon restraint. Shows extreme
paranoia complaining that "they're all going to die" and
"you didn't warn her" while wailing. 40mg IM Ziprasidone
administered. On re-examination 30m later, Patient showed
reduced agitation and would even respond to questions about
his comfort appropriately. Complained repeatedly that it
was "too late anyway" and prayes [sic] for forgiveness but wouldn't
answer what for. Call Dr. Peters in the AM to arrange
for examination due to radical change in presentation.
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August 27th, 2007
Outpost Events
August 27 - Marie tells us Jen was brutally murdered. In her belongings was found the missing piece of the watercolor. Sapago enters storage facility and finds a hard drive along with the hand from which the finger was removed. Later uploads hard drive contents to johnny5.org.
Bryce Events
*uncertain words are (in parentheses)
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8/27
The patient exhibits extremely different symptomology than on prior session: delusional, disorganized + manic.
Shows apparent trauma related to death of father. "Daddy promised they wouldn't stay dead" + "Daddy didn't know the secret but knew who did" are frequent inappropriate follow up responses. On direct questioning about father, he grew agitated and impatient leading to word salads:
"the dot parent dot consume parent the dot child parent (brace)" etc.
"yawn south of ya raffle bah way" etc
Asked if friend visited, produced semi-lucid moment:
"No one warned her it was ruse. We are a sacrifice. She broke one pattern and completed another. I miss her."
"Who was supposed to warn her?" -> "the ones who left us to die"
frequent ramblings about violent death:
hanging
torture
murder
What is connection between "Daddy" and death?
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when asked about his outbursts the past few days:
"He showed me the city of our nightmares"
ask about nightmares
delusional
claims nightmares aren't his
destroyed city
ruins
empty
Does not respond to verbal calming cues I'm very uncomfortable that patent was subjected to hypnotheraly without my clearance.
Keep under observation and return for followup tomorrow and possible re-diag.
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August 28th, 2007
Outpost Events
Someone unknown uploads pictures of the storage facility and a potentially threatening message to johnny5.org. New blog appears on Ronomi.com stating that StuR has died from an allergic reaction to a pickle in his sandwich.
Bryce Events
Dr's Notes on Session w/ Bryce
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8/28
patient in extremely agitated state
frequently distracted by ceiling while
not answering?
ask about auditory halluc. produces no direct resp.
calls it "the secret" his father knows
na stock bal mutaz moon? More word salads
seems eager to communicate something
paper + marker produces only squiggles
and meaningless diagrams
classic disorganized thought
could be signs of external stimuli
Ask more about nightmares that aren't his
Dramatic change in presentation:
Withdrawn
poverty of speech
"we're all going to die"
continued questioning produces nonverbal
agitation
"the secret that kills can bring them back"
DANGEROUS psychotic
delusions of power?
try to raise topic of computers:
?? "Whatever you do, don't let them use the Internet"
follow up questions produce shaking of head no
monitor for signs of stabilization: may be cyclical
symptomology
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Memo #1 - Written by Dr. A. Peters
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8/28/07
Droher, B.
Patient was keeping something hidden in his hands and became
aggressive when we investigated. Ends up it was a dead
mouse, and he became extremely agitated when we took it
away from him. responded to threats of isolation and calmed
down, but is still unusually agitated.
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Memo #2 - Written by Dr. A. Peters
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8/28/07
Droher, B.
Patent returned from therapy extremely agitated and
combative, including ptelling staff and patients they were going
to die, -instr- insisting someone had to warn them.
250mg Thorazine administered and kept in isolation
in his room.
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Memo #3 - Written by Dr. A. Peters
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8/28/07
Droher, B.
Patient extremely agitated late at night, banging on
his door chanting we're going to die. Created a stir
in the entire wing. 500mg Thorazine administered to
sedate. Continued whispering something similar even
after sedation. If patient continues to be combative,
re-assignment to a K wing would be appropriate.
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August 29th, 2007
Outpost Events
Sapagoo receives email from an unknown sender that includes the same pictures and message that were uploaded to j5
Bryce Events
Pickman Internal Memo
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August 29th, 2007
To: Dr. A. Peters (re: patient Droher, Bryce A. #42552057)
From: Karen Schwartz, SAPRF Administrative Assistant
Dr. Peters,
Given the change in the patient's presentation, the hospital feels it is appropriate to provide an update to the DPG. If Mr. Droher is more communicative, it would be prudent to allow the DPG to determine if a Judicial Review WIC 5275 is warranted. If you believe the patient's state makes Danger to Self or Others more appropriate than Gravely Disabled, this would be the time to make that argument before the conservatorship is challenged or expires on October 22. Please provide yor\ur detailed notes and a probably cause form on this within the next 48 hours.
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August 30th, 2007
Outpost Events
Howard adds six new Sentries as moderators on Sentry Outpost and opens up formerly private Retreat forum to everyone
Bryce Events
Pickman Internal Memo #2
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August 30, 2007
To: Public Guardian, Office of the Counselor in Mental Health, Superior Court of Los Angeles County
From: Dr. Alexander Peters Psychiatric Resident, PPTF
Re: Symptoms of Bryce A. Droher (patient # 47552057)
Mr. Droher was admitted to this facility on May 27, 2007 by police order under a WIV 5150 (attached) after being found catatonic on the streets of Long Beach covered with animal blood. Police declined to prosecute Mr. Droher on animal abuse charges, but the condition of his apartment suggested he was a danger to himself or others. A 30-day WIC 5270 was approved by the courts on May 30, 2007 given his brief psychotic disorder and catatonic schizophrenia diagnosis. On June 22nd the courts approved a four month temporary LPS conservatorship, given our inability to locate any immediate family of Mr. Droher.
On August 8, 2007, Mr. Droher was referred to me for re-evalutation after aggressive behavior inconsistent with his prior diagnosis. On August 13, 2007, that diagnosis was changed to schizophrenia undifferentiatea. In psychiatric sessions, Mr. Droher continues to show thought disorders, delusions, and auditory hallucinations. This coupled with the seriousness of precipitating events and the lack of a support system in the community make his behaviors a Danger to Others and Gravely Disabled.
Mr. Droher's thought disorders are not the result of cultural differences and seem to be global in nature. He holds beliefs that people need to be warned of their impending deaths and that his father taught him the secret of bringing the dead back to life. Police reports upon admission confirmed that he had beheaded a number of small birds in his apartment and arranged their heads next to their bodies. He has made no specific threats against any individuals, but believes there are people responsible for the situation who left them behind to die. Very few verbalizations from Mr. Droher occur except those related to his thought disorder and associated delusions.
Mr. Droher suffers many of the delusions associated with paranoia, including the belief that an unspecified shadowy group of people are out to get him and others. These delusions are highly dissociative, and he shows extreme aggravation at his inability to express his paranoia, instead using inspecific pronouns and invented words as he searches for expression. Many of these delusions are violent in nature, including people hanging themselves, people being violently attacked, and people being tortured. While Mr. Droher has never framed these statements as threats, he expressed them as inevitable and seems to believe he could bring those people back from the dead.
Mr. Droher also appears to be having auditory hallucinations or overriding internal stimulu, although his dissociative condition prevents him from acknowledging that on direct query. Physically he shows symptoms of being distracted by either hallucination or internal stimulus. Some of thos auditory hallucinations are word-like sounds that he repeats in seemingly random cascade, suggesting that he is repeating something that he is hearing at that very moment, usually while staring upwards towards the ceiling. When asked if he had experienced this in the past, his responses suggested these word-like sounds were related to a secret his father taught him, which might be suggestive of schizophrenic symptons in late youth.
In the last several weeks, he has had several violent outbursts directed at hospital staff or fellow patients that have required restraint and sedation, a remarkable change from his prior condition and more suggestive of behavior associated with psychosis and mania. Given the severity of the conditions of admission to this facility by the police and the way animal abuse crimes prove indicative of future violent potential, this in my professional opinion makes Mr. Droher a Danger to Others.
No family members have presented themselves since Mr. Droher's admission in May, and it is our understanding that he lived alone, worked from his apartment, and few if any friends or acquantances in the area. It is also out understanding that Mr. Droher's possessions were moved into storage by his landlord and eviction procedures completed, making him effectively homeless and jobless if he were to be released from treatment. Mr. Droher's condition continues to require supervision and assistance that precludes him living on his own and makes Mr. Droher in my professional opinion Gravely Disabled.
Dr. Alexander Peters, M.D.
Psychiatric Resident
Pickman Psychiatric
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September 6th, 2007
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Transcription
9/6/07
Droher, B.
Found Bryce in his room silent but crying. Unresponsive
but seemed to whisper three sounds, something like yee an oh?
Should he be evaluated for potential depression?
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September 10th, 2007
Outpost Events
Bryce Events
Dr's Note
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9/10
presents with growing signs of stupor
pupils reactive
eyes travel in slow purposeless circles
startle reflexes intact
limited signs of waxy flexibility
some vocalizations, mainly gutteral
does not respond to verbal cues
exceptionally strange to have a
manic phase lasting just 28 days
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September 12th, 2007
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9/12/07
Droher, B.
Had to return to feeding patient today after nearly
24 hours of him failing to feed himself. Has become completely
withdrawn and uncommunicative.
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So I breezed through this a touch, bolded what stood out to me, and am scribbling comments below -- (correction, i'll step away once i post THIS one...)
So these references to "Daddy" seem strange to anyone? Do they seem oddly familiar but not in the "if you tell your mother i'll fucking kill you" kind of way? I know they seemed that way to me, and what do you know --
http://www.sentryoutpost.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1820#1820
it's not "DADDY" it's DEDI! That old silly fucker that got it all right back in 2700B.C.! just like the Byce man said!!
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So I’m rethinking this whole dead bird thing. It is symbolic!
It is the key to unlocking something!
It ends up, the oldest recorded magic isn’t the grifter’s trick of the cups and balls after all.
They don’t have to stay dead!
Dedi had it right in 2700 BC.
Who knows, maybe my uncle didn’t leave the dead doves that way for long either. Maybe he brought them back and set them free!
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Djedi the magician
"His name is Dedi," answered Prince Hordadef. "He is a very old man, for his years are a hundred and ten. Each day he eats a joint of beef and five hundred loaves of bread, and drinks a hundred jugs of beer. He can smite off the head of a living creature and restore it again; he can make a lion follow him; and he knows the secrets of the habitation of the god Thoth, which Your Majesty has desired to know so that you may design the chambers of your pyramid."
King Khufu said: "Go now and find this man for me, Hordadef."
The prince went down to the Nile, boarded a boat, and sailed southward until he reached the town called Dedsnefru, where Dedi had his dwelling. He went ashore, and was carried in his chair of state towards the magician, who was found lying at his door. When Dedi was awakened, the king's son saluted him and bade him not to rise up because of his years. The prince said: "My royal father desires to honour you, and will provide for you a tomb among your people."
Dedi blessed the prince and the king with thankfulness, and he said to Hordadef: "Greatness be thine; may your Ka have victory over the powers of evil, and may your Khu follow the path which leads to Paradise." khu: or akh, the part of a person which rose to the heavens to become a star. (cf. Body and Soul)
Lichtheim gives ba instead of khu
Hordadef assisted Dedi to rise up, and took his arm to help him towards the ship. He sailed away with the prince, and in another ship were his assistants and his magic books.
"Health and strength and plenty be thine," said Hordadef, when he again stood before his royal father King Khufu. "I have come down stream with Dedi, the great magician."
His Majesty was well pleased, and said: "Let the man be brought into my presence."
Dedi came and saluted the king, who said: "Why have I not seen you before?"
"He that is called cometh," answered the old man; "you have sent for me and I am here."
"It is told," King Khufu said, "that you can restore the head that is taken from a live creature."
"I can indeed, Your Majesty," answered Dedi.
The king said: "Then let a prisoner be brought forth and decapitated."
"I would rather it were not a man," said Dedi; "I do not deal even with cattle in such a manner."
A duck was brought forth and its head was cut off, and the head was thrown to the right and the body to the left. Dedi spoke magic words. Then the head and the body came together, and the duck rose up and quacked loudly. The same was done with a goose.
King Khufu then caused a cow to be brought in, and its head was cut off. Dedi restored the animal to life again, and caused it to follow him. His Majesty then spoke to the magician and said: "It is told that you possess the secrets of the dwelling of the god Thoth."
Dedi answered: "I do not possess them, but I know where they are concealed, and that is within a temple chamber at Heliopolis. There the plans are kept in a box, but it is no insignificant person who shall bring them to Your Majesty."
"I would fain know who will deliver them unto me," King Khufu said.
Dedi prophesied that three sons would be born to Rud-dedit, wife of the chief priest of Ra. The eldest would become chief priest at Heliopolis and would possess the plans. He and his brothers would one day sit upon the throne and rule over all the land.
King Khufu's heart was filled with gloom and alarm when he heard the prophetic words of the great magician.
Dedi then said: "What are your thoughts, O King? Behold your son will reign after you, and then his son. But next one of these children will follow."
King Khufu was silent. Then he spoke and asked: "When shall these children be born?"
Dedi informed His Majesty, who said: "I will visit the temple of Ra at that time."
Dedi was honoured by His Majesty, and thereafterwards dwelt in the house of the Prince Hordadef. He was given daily for his portion an ox, a thousand loaves of bread, a hundred jugs of beer, and a hundred bunches of onions.
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the rest of bryce's posts -- quick and convenient for reference:
http://www.sentryoutpost.com/forums/search.php?search_author=Themagician
And im [b]O - U - T
EDIT: I reordered the material in chronological order and made the formating more consistent. Thanks for getting this all up on SO, Obs!! - Dante |
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Transtar
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Wow nice work Obs, a bit of spec.
Dr. J Gateson - evidently knows what is going on, possibly a member of Miskadonic (did I spell that right?) U, our it could possibly be a pseudonym for eXu (although I don't thnik he is licenced to practice medicine in CA) I'll need to check with HP on both counts.
If I'm wrong, I don't know who's affiliation they are aligned with. They obviously know what is going on (they at least told bryce about marie
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About Dedi (from the only source I could find on him)
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His Majesty then spoke to the magician and said: "It is told that you possess the secrets of the dwelling of the god Thoth."
Dedi answered: "I do not possess them, but I know where they are concealed, and that is within a temple chamber at Heliopolis. There the plans are kept in a box, but it is no insignificant person who shall bring them to Your Majesty."
"I would fain know who will deliver them unto me," King Khufu said.
Dedi prophesied that three sons would be born to Rud-dedit, wife of the chief priest of Ra. The eldest would become chief priest at Heliopolis and would possess the plans. He and his brothers would one day sit upon the throne and rule over all the land. |
The eldest son turned out to be the 1st pharaoh of the 5th dynasty of Egypt. Maybe we're dealing with the same characters just different names (Egyptian Gods renamed by modern Chorazos to be more...hip?)
Again just my $0.02 (I could and probably am WAY off)
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Transtar
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Oh and in case anyone gets the idea I e-mailed peter:
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Mr. Severn,
I am glad that our business deal went through as expected. As a means to
make life for us sentries a tiny bit easier, do you happen to have the
electronic copy of Bryce's files. This is only something to help save some
sentries wrists from carpal tunnel. If this is not possible, I apologize
for intruding on you time.
Thank you very much,
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My apologies, Transtar, I do not, I am the proud possessor now of a manila
folder full of dreadful photocopies.
In addition, I hope you and the other Sentries understand that I did remove
some documents from that file: Mr. Droher's insurance claim forms and police
admission records seemed insensitive to deliver.
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So perhaps we could e-mail Petey here a electronic copy of the files as a "good faith" effort. Just a thought.
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Good find Obs!
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| Dr. J Gateson - evidently knows what is going on, possibly a member of Miskadonic (did I spell that right?) U, our it could possibly be a pseudonym for eXu (although I don't thnik he is licenced to practice medicine in CA) I'll need to check with HP on both counts. |
Gateson's either affiliated with Chorazos or Miskatonic. Considering Bryce's repeating "gate son" and "the parent eats the child", the later may be likely. "The parent eats the child" could allude to Dr. Riley's work (Hated Child Devouring, Omphalos, Saturn Devouring His Son). Maybe it was Exu or her. Gateson was able to get in and conduct hypnotherapy without being questioned or caught, even without being a staff physician.
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Dedi prophesied that three sons would be born to Rud-dedit, wife of the chief priest of Ra. The eldest would become chief priest at Heliopolis and would possess the plans. He and his brothers would one day sit upon the throne and rule over all the land.
The eldest son turned out to be the 1st pharaoh of the 5th dynasty of Egypt. Maybe we're dealing with the same characters just different names (Egyptian Gods renamed by modern Chorazos to be more...hip?) |
Possibly? I remember finding a lot of Egyptian connections while researching BA St. Feline (BAST - in this world and Lovecraft's mythology) and Spukhafte Fernwurkung (Possibly Nyarlathotep?).
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| Nyarlathotep's first appearance is in the eponymous short story by Lovecraft (1920), in which he is described as a "tall, swarthy man" who resembles an Egyptian Pharaoh. In this story he wanders the earth, seemingly gathering legions of followers through his demonstrations of strange and seemingly magical instruments, the narrator of the story among them. These followers lose awareness of the world around them, and through the narrator's increasingly unreliable accounts the reader gets a sense of the world's utter collapse. The story ends with the narrator as part of an army of servants serving Nyarlathotep. |
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Catherwood
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| I think I figured out his red doodles - numbers 1 and 2 together roughly sound like "Yog-Sothoth", and apparently number 3 means "oh my God!". |
Bless you, now I won't embarass myself by asking my Pakistani co-worker to translate them for me. heh.
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| PLACEHOLDER FOR LENGTHY DESCRIPTION OF THE EVENING |
Thank you for creating this thread. Right now i feel like crap -- not from anything that went down, but from getting too little sleep, staying up late last night to process the documents was my highest priority. Although I will say that I feel more uneasy seeing that folder sitting on my coffee table than the harddrive ever made me feel. I'm more emotionally connected to Bryce, I guess.
Now to work (the kind that pays me). I'll see some people in IRC later, but I won't have time to say much. |
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| Dr. J Gateson - evidently knows what is going on, possibly a member of Miskadonic (did I spell that right?) U, our it could possibly be a pseudonym for eXu (although I don't thnik he is licenced to practice medicine in CA) I'll need to check with HP on both counts. |
Gateson's either affiliated with Chorazos or Miskatonic. Considering Bryce's repeating "gate son" and "the parent eats the child", the later may be likely. |
Could Gateson be an alias with a literal meaning behind it? The son of the gatekeeper? Yog-Sothoth apparently had a half human son.
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Could Gateson be an alias with a literal meaning behind it? The son of the gatekeeper? Yog-Sothoth apparently had a half human son. |
I like that Varin, it's how the Norweigans and the Icelanders name their children. As mentioned in chat, Gateson is also an angram for "SO agent". |
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Endercoaster
Joined: 12 Dec 2007
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| Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 11:51 am Post subject: |
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I hate to be insensitive, but it's important to not let our attachments cloud our judgment. Bryce's constant use of the word "ruse" is very troubling in light of the email I received from Peter yesterday. So I emailed him again:
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Mr. Severn,
The files on Bryce that were obtained by Sentries in Sacramento tonight
raise an additional question that I need to ask. In your response to me,
you said that Chorazos was "a ruse." Bryce's files report that he
repeatedly says "we're all just a ruse" and other statements to that effect,
all containing the word "ruse," and directly implicating him and Marie.
Given that you've seen Bryce's file and knew we would obtain it tonight, I
find it difficult to believe that this was a coincidence. Are we supposed
to conclude that both Marie and Bryce, and perhaps other original Sentries,
are somehow connected with Chorazos, or does it mean that both Chorazos and
the Sentries are ruses for this greater enemy? Thank you for your time in
answering this question.
-Mai Naime |
Peter responded:
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Mr. Naime,
I don't believe in coincidences, and which matryoshka doll Mr. Droher opened
is the subject of some speculation among my colleagues as well. Given his
condition, we can assume one of the nastier ones.
I don't think his mind is particularly clear or articulate, and his
therapist is far less than an attentive conduit, and so we are left to
interpret and extrapolate. It might be that Mr. Droher's background made him
attentive to a stage magician's tendency to rely upon misdirection to build
a convincing illusion.
I want you to come to your own conclusions, but keep in mind the real
discussion we're having here is about trust. From my perspective, I've
delivered you something that might not cast me in the most positive of
lights. That is the real offering of my trust that I've provided you, my
reason for choosing that as the first exchange.
It is the first step in a very long road, Mr. Naime.
Sincerely,
Peter Severn
CEO, Forsythe Security
http://www.forsythesecurity.com |
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Transtar
Joined: 25 Sep 2007
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Location: Marietta, Ga
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| Posted: Thu Jan 31, 2008 12:07 pm Post subject: |
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*tilts head*
He has delivered something that might not cast him in the best of lights???
I think I'm going to need a whiteboard ..... Peter = Gateson? ......
why do I feel like I'm missing something very obvious??
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Axys Denyed
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Location: Houston, TX
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| I find the use of "Gateson" by the doctor visiting Bryce very intriguing. Consider, if you will, that Chorazos (even if they are a ruse) are tied in with the things that happened to the other Sentries. Add to this the fact that Chorazos worships Yog-Sothoth, who is the key and the gate. Lovecraft once wrote of Yog-Sothoth having half-human offspring. I wonder if "Dr. Gateson" was being literal with his pseudonym, or if it was more figurative. I assume any who worship Yoggy can be considered one of his "sons". Then again, I could be way out on my speculations. |
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Dante
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Location: Chicago, IL
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This is my favorite part:
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| instead using inspecific pronouns and invented words as he searches for expression. |
Bryce has B.A's Disease! |
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