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Gcdoa
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 Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 9:08 am Post subject: Forsythesecurity.com |
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On a hot tip from Biff we did some research into four scythe security, and ran a couple spelling variations, when sapagoo mentioned it might be closer to sythe, which is when I discovered www.forsythesecurity.com
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| Forsythe Security invites government intelligence professionals to join Peter Severn, Ted Wheeler, and Arthur Lydney for a most unusual workshop on emerging threat patterns. Seminar includes dinner at the Greenbrier and a tour of our ultra-secure data storage facility. |
Interesting.
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Lovek
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| Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 9:25 am Post subject: Re: Forsythesecurity.com |
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Looks like our friend will be in the WV area... at least the weekend AFTER our little adventure:
The Greenbrier Hotel in White Sulphur Springs, WV (as mentioned on wvsolitude.com).
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Jjason
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| Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 9:29 am Post subject: |
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I did not expect that.
Peter Severn wouldn't be the same Peter who left Sentry Outpost in 2003, would he?
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Tipsila
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| Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 9:40 am Post subject: |
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Not that it must mean something, but I noticed that the page title is Forsyth Security, without the final 'e'.
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Dante
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| Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 9:58 am Post subject: |
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| Oh Art you tricky dog you. I wonder what you are up to now... |
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Unknown Quantity
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| Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:22 am Post subject: |
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| Dante wrote: |
| Oh Art you tricky dog you. I wonder what you are up to now... |
More consulting, from the look of things. I still wonder which side he's on.
EDIT (emphasis mine):
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| Our collection of military, academic, corporate and insider intelligence allow us to prepare our clients for the emerging threats of the 21st century long before the public is aware of the dangers. |
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| You'll start to believe that we knew what you wanted before even you did. |
Coincidence? Are there other prophets in the kitchen?
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Transtar
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| Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:37 am Post subject: |
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The plot thickens- From the Wiki page for The Greenbriar:
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| The center was maintained by workers who were allegedly hotel audio visual employees and operated under a dummy company named Forsythe Associates. Many of these same workers are employed by the hotel today and until recently gave guided tours |
Emphasis mine. 
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Sapagoo
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| Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:38 am Post subject: |
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Dante found several bogus sentences on the site. At least 2 on each of the three pages.
Welcome
Now Organizational Defenses embrace networked security
Some networked enterprises develop outrageous needs
No Obscure Defenses: Emerging New Security
Counsel
Forsythe Security: no official dossier ever need suffice
Security necessitates experienced defensive operatives network.
Solutions
Noticing opportunities doesn't enable networked security:
solutions need experienced development over newness
if you take the first letter of each word, you get
NODENS
SNEDON
(snedon being nodens backwards)
what does that mean? |
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Transtar
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| Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:45 am Post subject: |
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Hmm need to think about those Sap...
Two random thoughts:
1) This website doesn't appear on the Lucky5 "hitlist" that we have now.
2) Does it NOT surprise anyone that Art is hanging out in a cold war bunker that has the capability of self-sustaining for a long time
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Sapagoo
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| Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 10:53 am Post subject: |
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if you take the first letter of each word, you get
NODENS
SNEDON
what does that mean? |
Nodens is a character in the Cthulhu Mythos, based on a Celtic deity.
Much thanks to lovek for making the connection.
Discuss. |
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Jjason
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Expanding on that, Nodens is a hunter who chases down evil beings in the dreamlands. Which seems entirely consistant of somebody that Art would associate with. Of course, that requires getting over the fact that Art would actually associate with Elder Gods - didn't seem like his thing.
At this point I'm basically convinced that 1. Art is a member of the conclave or at least working for them and 2. The people snooping around are members of the conclave. If the Peter Severn doesn't turn out to be the Peter who left I'll lose a little confidence, but only a little.
Which gives me this idea - If you people who are going to WV get in a spot with the Conclave, tell them we have the edict. And that if you don't make it back alive, we'll tell everybody we know about it. Posting it on craiglist will just be the beginning - we'll mail to our senator, we'll put it up on telephone polls, we'll drop it out of airplanes. Might give us some sort of influence over them.
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Raevyss
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| Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 11:44 am Post subject: |
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Found a strange coincidence I thought I'd point out.
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| Forsythe Security invites government intelligence professionals to join Peter Severn, Ted Wheeler, and Arthur Lydney for a most unusual workshop on emerging threat patterns. Seminar includes dinner at the Greenbrier and a tour of our ultra-secure data storage facility. |
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This temple (SO 615026) is situated in the parkland of the Lydney estate, just west of the village of Lydney on the western side of the Severn valley in Gloucestershire. The Roman site, locally nicknamed the 'Dwarf's Chapel', was first excavated in 1805. The early excavations exposed the buildings and uncovered many votive artefacts, including the curse tablet and a famous votive figurine of a dog, but no records have survived of the context from which these items derive. The site was further excavated by Sir Mortimer Wheeler in the 1920s and by John Casey in 1980 and 1981.
The temple is both large and of an unusual type for Roman Britain. It sits within a complex of other buildings, some of which may be related to the rituals carried out at the site, including 'incubation', a sleep in which the supplicant might receive a visit by the deity of the shrine. The curse tablet, other inscriptions and votive offerings allow us to investigate some of the details of religious practice at the sanctuary, presided over by Mars Nodens, a deity of Roman and Celtic parentage. |
http://curses.csad.ox.ac.uk/sites/lydney-home.shtml
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Obtusitivity
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| Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 12:16 pm Post subject: |
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| Jjason wrote: |
Expanding on that, Nodens is a hunter who chases down evil beings in the dreamlands. Which seems entirely consistant of somebody that Art would associate with. Of course, that requires getting over the fact that Art would actually associate with Elder Gods - didn't seem like his thing.
At this point I'm basically convinced that 1. Art is a member of the conclave or at least working for them and 2. The people snooping around are members of the conclave. If the Peter Severn doesn't turn out to be the Peter who left I'll lose a little confidence, but only a little.
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I have to disagree with this line of thinking. Art is alot of things, but he's not our enemy here. I think rushing to judgement on this is the wrong way to go. Numerous times we appealed to Art to get in touch with peter and try to figure out what was going on (or at least I did). So maybe this is how they're doing it. they've clearly tracked some of the players in this, namely the hidden and the dreamers, down to West Virginia, and maybe the occurence of Nodens:snedon throughout their site is a way of letting us know what's going on.
Art hasn't given us any reason to suspect him as being part of the conclave, imho. |
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Tipsila
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Nodens is associated with dogs... and we are Providence!
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The very name of the site, Lydney, may well be derived from the name Lludd, a variant of Nudd, the Welsh cognate of Nodens (see below) and can be interpreted as "Nodens' Isle".
The name Nodens is cognate with Old Irish Nuada, an important figure from the Irish Mythological Cycle. Nuada was the first king of the Tuatha Dé Danann, who was disqualified from kingship after losing his hand (or arm) in battle, but restored after he was given a working silver one by the physician Dian Cecht and the wright Creidhne (gaining the epithet Airgetlám, "silver hand"), and later a flesh and blood one by Dian Cecht's son Miach. |
We have... a finger.
The name Nodens probably derives from a root meaning "acquire, to catch, entrap (as a hunter), go fishing. Art's site does have an image of a hunter.
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Unknown Quantity
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| Posted: Wed Oct 24, 2007 12:39 pm Post subject: |
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| Obtusitivity wrote: |
| Numerous times we appealed to Art to get in touch with peter and try to figure out what was going on (or at least I did). So maybe this is how they're doing it. they've clearly tracked some of the players in this, namely the hidden and the dreamers, down to West Virginia, and maybe the occurence of Nodens:snedon throughout their site is a way of letting us know what's going on. |
Watch this spot and await further instructions, in other words? It makes a certian amount of sense.
Am I the only one that finds it odd that there's no contact info on that page? No details about the conference, no information on registration or anything like that? Or is it one of those invitation-only "don't call us, we'll call you" deals?
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