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Dante



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 10:22 am    Post subject: WV Solitude Reply with quote

I noticed in the past couple of posts from the Dreamers on Craigslist that they both mentioned "WV Solitude," which made me curious.

So I search around and found a website:

http://wvsolitude.com/

From the meta description:
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WV Solitude is a collaborative map of the quiet beautiful places hidden among the mountains of Eastern West Virginia, far from the noise and bustle of modern life. Sometimes, getting only one radio station can be a good thing.


I *really* think that the people going to West Virginia should check this out!!
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 11:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've compiled all of the comments (from the map and the comments below) with some sort of directions for most of the locations.

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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There's a "Stuart" that posts there a lot. It's not that common a name. Could our old friend StuR been interested in the quiet places of WV, despite his decidedly anti-Luddite tendencies? There aren't any dates attached to the comments, so I have no idea if those were posted a long time ago, or even within the last month. So, is he dense enough to keep the same first name while in hiding, was this an interest of his before he died, or is this just a crazy coincidence? What the . . .?

Other points of interest (by no means complete):
There's apparently a screaming jenny haunting the Abandoned Gauley Line.
Big Mountain Lookout has an old "Outpost".
Brandywine Lake had a "surprising number of people" for a "special event". Sounds ominous to me.
Cass Railroad: "Actually, not true. Emmet showed me a path up from Snowshoe. Granted, not an easy hike, but I'd rather get exercise than ride a smokey train." Exu's Emmet?
Hilltop Gem: Misunderstanding about cabin location, or *hidden* cabin?

Edit: They seem to know the area pretty well, so I added Taylor Run to the site, along with a leading comment to try and get them to talk about what they think happened there in 1999.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nice find, Dante! Very Happy
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Noyb wrote:
Cass Railroad: "Actually, not true. Emmet showed me a path up from Snowshoe. Granted, not an easy hike, but I'd rather get exercise than ride a smokey train." Exu's Emmet?

DC's Emmet, you mean. From the way he's described, he seems to be a loca expert of some sort.

Another thing that caught my eye was the mention of Screaming Jenny at the Abandoned Gauley Line by long timer, what with how Exu mentioned her and all.
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 10:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Subject: Http://wvsolitude.com

Analysis: While this website has not shows any overt signs of infection by the Lucky5 malware, and does not appear to be directly related to the Chorazos Hacking Ring, it does appear to have some loose and possibly circumstantial relation to one B.A. Saint-Feline, As well as Devon Conrad, The Orlando Dreamers, and possibly the unknown entity known as "The Hidden" as mentioned by Devon Conrad in one of the first correspondances in which he directly addressed The New Sentries. Below includes a number of possible references to groups and / or individuals of whom we have little or no additional information on, and may constitute enough of a connection warrant further investigation:

Emmet

Emmet is referred to many times throughout the postings on this site, and appears to be one who is considered wise, and who these individuals see as an elder or leader among them, as evidenced by the following comments:

Abandoned Gauley Line

""A nice place until Screaming Jenny comes for you one evening. There's a reason Emmet tells you folks to stay away from there." - long timer

Big Mountain Lookout

"That's one of the outposts Emmet told me about back in '75. Didn't know they still even use it."- old timer

Cass Railroad State Park

"Actually, not true. Emmet showed me a path up from Snowshoe. Granted, not an easy hike, but I'd rather get exercise than ride a smokey train."- stuart

Droop Mountain Battlefield

"Don't let the state park fool you. This place is haunted by headless soldiers and spectral horses. It's like Emmet taught you: don't go no where you ain't prepared for."- old timer

Furbin and Greenbrier Valley railroad

"Do it, Karen. They only really run that kind of stuff for you hiders. Emmet told me it's some of the best sleep you can find."- long timer

Great View

"The lookout cabin is alot less busier in the fall when it starts getting chill. Emmet told me it was a fairly safe place to sleep, but I saw bears there once."- Stuart

Meck?s home Bakery

"I was eating one of Karen's cinnamon rolls when Emmet strolled in looking for the same thing."- Gary

Sleep (Quality of)

B.A. Saint-Feline and the Orlando Dreamers often make references to sleep, and dreams, and the city in which they exist beyond their dreams. This may or may not be related, however this site makes a large number of references to sleeping and / or the quality of sleep to be had in certain locations

Cass Railroad State Park

"Despite the smoke and cinders, I've never felt more rested. The whip up a fair meal in the Last Run Restaurant as well."- old timer

Durbin and Greenbrier Valley Railroad

"Do it, Karen. They only really run that kind of stuff for you hiders. Emmet told me it's some of the best sleep you can find."- long timer

Great View

"The lookout cabin is alot less busier in the fall when it starts getting chill. Emmet told me it was a fairly safe place to sleep, but I saw bears there once."- Stuart

Greenbrier River Cabins

"Nice cabins, no need to hike to get to. Strange sounds from Cranberry, but I still sleep good."- Petri

Hilltop Gem

"This was my first cabin in WV. Lots of people rent it out, though, so it's hard to get for any length. I've never slept better, though.}- Gail

Jerico Bed & Breakfast

"Nice Civil War cabins for rent. See one ghost. Did not sleep well."- Petri

Old Clark Inn

"High speed Internet access means not sleep well."- Petri

Spruce Knob Lookout

"There's a radio tower not too far down the trail. You can hear it humming and buzzing, I couldn't sleep at all."- Gail

Miscellanious Connections

The following comments stand out as being loose connections to the writings of BA Saint-Feline and other potentially related items (such as computers / the web). These (as with all of the items listed above) could easily be a coincidence.

The Greebrier Hotel

"I could stand being around there, I think there's just too much computer junk in the basement, I could hear it all running all night."- melissa

Triple Sixes

"Six miles from Cass on Route 66, around the hairpin turn, sometimes I catch an echo of the hum.- old timer

** "The Hum"

***http://homepages.tesco.net/~John.Dawes2/
***http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taos_Hum
***http://www.earthpulse.com/src/subcategory.asp?catid=2&subcatid=8
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 10:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome back Obs, and with such a grand re-entry! I was trying to make sense of the new info, but it seems that you already have. Very Happy
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Taluria



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 07, 2007 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I may need to look into some of the places these people are talking about, or find some similar ones nearby. The lightbulbs are starting to bother me terribly, I get this freaky high-pitched ringing from incandescent ones, and others are a mosquito-like buzzing. It's bugging me to no end... And this whole situation isn't helping...

My brain hurts like a vampire in the sun!
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 12:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Noyb wrote:
There's a "Stuart" that posts there a lot. It's not that common a name. Could our old friend StuR been interested in the quiet places of WV, despite his decidedly anti-Luddite tendencies? There aren't any dates attached to the comments, so I have no idea if those were posted a long time ago, or even within the last month. So, is he dense enough to keep the same first name while in hiding, was this an interest of his before he died, or is this just a crazy coincidence? What the . . .?

Other points of interest (by no means complete):
There's apparently a screaming jenny haunting the Abandoned Gauley Line.
Big Mountain Lookout has an old "Outpost".
Brandywine Lake had a "surprising number of people" for a "special event". Sounds ominous to me.
Cass Railroad: "Actually, not true. Emmet showed me a path up from Snowshoe. Granted, not an easy hike, but I'd rather get exercise than ride a smokey train." Exu's Emmet?
Hilltop Gem: Misunderstanding about cabin location, or *hidden* cabin?

Edit: They seem to know the area pretty well, so I added Taylor Run to the site, along with a leading comment to try and get them to talk about what they think happened there in 1999.


I think stu came out at one point and mentioned that Stu Ronomi was a nickname and not his actual identity. the crazy bastard.

i miss ya stu.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 9:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Obtusitivity wrote:
[The Greebrier Hotel

"I could stand being around there, I think there's just too much computer junk in the basement, I could hear it all running all night."- melissa



Ummm this was one of the points on eXu's map, the bomb-shelter for congress. *says Hi to the US web crawler that is scanning this post for me saying bomb and congress in the same line* What the . . .?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 5:19 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Obtusitivity wrote:
Sleep (Quality of)

B.A. Saint-Feline and the Orlando Dreamers often make references to sleep, and dreams, and the city in which they exist beyond their dreams. This may or may not be related, however this site makes a large number of references to sleeping and / or the quality of sleep to be had in certain locations

Cass Railroad State Park

"Despite the smoke and cinders, I've never felt more rested. The whip up a fair meal in the Last Run Restaurant as well."- old timer

Durbin and Greenbrier Valley Railroad

"Do it, Karen. They only really run that kind of stuff for you hiders. Emmet told me it's some of the best sleep you can find."- long timer

Great View

"The lookout cabin is alot less busier in the fall when it starts getting chill. Emmet told me it was a fairly safe place to sleep, but I saw bears there once."- Stuart

Greenbrier River Cabins

"Nice cabins, no need to hike to get to. Strange sounds from Cranberry, but I still sleep good."- Petri

Hilltop Gem

"This was my first cabin in WV. Lots of people rent it out, though, so it's hard to get for any length. I've never slept better, though.}- Gail

Jerico Bed & Breakfast

"Nice Civil War cabins for rent. See one ghost. Did not sleep well."- Petri

Old Clark Inn

"High speed Internet access means not sleep well."- Petri

Spruce Knob Lookout

"There's a radio tower not too far down the trail. You can hear it humming and buzzing, I couldn't sleep at all."- Gail

Miscellanious Connections

The following comments stand out as being loose connections to the writings of BA Saint-Feline and other potentially related items (such as computers / the web). These (as with all of the items listed above) could easily be a coincidence.

The Greebrier Hotel

"I could stand being around there, I think there's just too much computer junk in the basement, I could hear it all running all night."- melissa

Triple Sixes

"Six miles from Cass on Route 66, around the hairpin turn, sometimes I catch an echo of the hum.- old timer

** "The Hum"

***http://homepages.tesco.net/~John.Dawes2/
***http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taos_Hum
***http://www.earthpulse.com/src/subcategory.asp?catid=2&subcatid=8


So after reading the websites on the Hum and the WV Solitude it seems to me that the people who talk so much about the lack of/quality of sleep may be people suffering from The Hum(sounds like a bad Stephen King book) How this factors into our other investigations I don't know though...
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 6:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

from what I can see, the hum comes from any type of electrical equipment. This links them to the dreamers and BA who can't stand to be around said equipment. That's how they're connected.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 08, 2007 8:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Durbin and Greenbrier Valley Railroad wrote:

"I love this place, especially the dinner train. One year I'll do a castaway caboose, I swear it." - Karen

"Do it, Karen. They only really run that kind of stuff for you hiders. Emmet told me it's some of the best sleep you can find."- long timer

DC mentioned the hidden in his e-mail - "you will be here, too, with the Hidden and the Dreamers." Could long timer be referencing them here? The Castaway Caboose seems to be a service where you take the train out to the wilderness, sleep overnight there, and then come back. I can see why the Dreamers would like it, but it doesn't really cast any light on the Hidden.

The train connection makes me think of Screaming Jenny and Karen was also interested in the Cass Railroad State Park but I got nothing more than that. Might be a lead.
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 12:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So the hiders are people who hide from technology? Like BA?
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 12:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfictionrose wrote:
So the hiders are people who hide from technology? Like BA?

That's sort of what the comment suggests, but then what makes them different from the dreamers, who are also suffering adverse effects from technology? Maybe the hidden are a subcategory of the dreamers, the one who have progressed far enough that they can't stand technology anymore and have to hide in the woods. Or maybe they're people who suffer from the same technology allergy as the Dreamers but don't dream. Or maybe they're people who like trains and have a nonsequitor label. I don't think it's that last one though.
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