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Sapagoo
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 Posted: Tue May 22, 2007 4:55 pm Post subject: Plaintext snippets from Port 1031-take 3(collaboration) |
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Hopefully, this will be easier to remember than the last two sections.
there are several snippets (probably from different people) talking about collaboration, and removing files from the server. This looks like it could have been around 2003 (feel free to correct me).
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| our own admission, the things I post to the boards are mine, right? Then why won't you agree to our request to take down our old presentations from the field work section? It isn't that we are sharing less, but to pro |
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| ight in the charter: "the keeping of secrets is not incompatible with collaboration." So even if my motivation were to suddenly keep my old work secret, why would this forum stand ag |
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| ny case, Scott summed it up as well as anyone. Maybe we are accidentily building a recipie book for the uninitiated to script kiddie their way up the threat sophistication scale. Do we have a |
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| omfortable aspects of the marketplace of ideas, but there is no putting the genie back in the bottle, (CR) there? Who are we to think we're so smart that by not sharing we'll remove that information enti |
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| thentication of identity. If we knew we were sharing just among researchers with a common code of ethics, many of these arsenal concerns begin to vaporize. No one is wor |
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| iculous to think people won't exploit that. You are just buying into the "black hat" and "white hat" stereotypes that media divides the world into in o |
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| om your presentation you describe methodologies you envision as delivery mechanisms, like BitTorrented payloads of massive size, but the collabora |
Seven snippets total. The first 2 appear to be from the same person, wanting their work OFF the server.
The next few could be arguments either way, and the last I put in just because it has the word collaborate/collaboration, which is exactly what the section is about.
Who said these quotes? Was it Peter that wanted his work off the server? What side did Scott fall on? How about the rest of you guys (I could easily see a Peter vs. everyone else bitchfest, with Marie baking cookies and trying to keep the peace)? Did the stuff ever get removed? What were the presentations about? I know you had several articles from slashdot and other online sources, but this definitely seems more personal, more specific to the Sentries.
edit: testing the forum to see if it adds little "edited 1 time" at the bottom of edited posts.
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Sapagoo
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| Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 6:55 am Post subject: |
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did anyone remember any of these quotes?
I don't know if this is motivation for what's been going on recently.
The BitTorrented payloads of massive size worry me. |
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Unfictionrose
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| Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 9:50 am Post subject: |
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| The BitTorrented payloads of massive size worry me. |
Yes, this is what has worried me as well. I think that the various aspects of what is happening here will come together at some point, but the massive bandwidth is one of the only factual consequences of the infestation on the server that we can find. Sometimes I feel that a lot of what is happening here is itself a magic trick - I feel like I've been lead through an elaborate diversion so I don't focus on the most important thing that is happening. To me the two most important things are: the massive bandwidth and the psychological warfare waged on HPHack seemingly for no reason other than to cause him pain. I don't think the quote snippets that lead us to question him about the massacre were randomly selected from the server. Only some of the text was legible and i think that was purposefully done.
This is all just speculation on my part of course, and I've been wrong plenty of times before...sometimes I'm right though. 
Have a great weekend. Maybe if BA goes to the cemetery this weekend she will see lots of flowers left for Memorial Day. Or maybe not.
[total aside: BA is a curious creature: I spend a third of the time thinking she is a real person having dreams about the server stuff (ok, unlikely I know), a third of the time thinking she is some sort of creation of another person who knows about the server problems, and a third of time thinking she is some kind of process on the server. And then I'm wondering if she is talking about a virtual place, a dream world or a real location. She is keeping me guessing about what is real, what is imaginary and what is virtual - that is for sure. I like her.  ]
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Unfictionrose
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| Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 11:14 am Post subject: Regarding the edict mentioned by EXU |
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Just to bring back up this thread as possibly being related to the [url=http://www.sentryoutpost.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=1634#1634] edict that Exu mentioned:
There was a controversy with Peter regarding a project that was happening on Sentry Outpost. Peter wanted his work off the server. I suppose the crash took care of that even if it was done sooner.
I forgot there was also a person named Scott.
I was thinking the "edict" was that some people left Sentry Outpost, won't come back and won't help us because we are here. Or maybe they were banned from here? Anyway, that group with Peter sure sounds like they could be the people who are against the Sentries we have here.
Does the thing that they were building sound like the boil?
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Unfictionrose
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| Posted: Mon Aug 06, 2007 11:36 am Post subject: |
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yeah I'm an idiot.
The edict is a confidentiality agreement.
If Peter disappears to work on a government or other highly classified project, relating to the program that had been on this server, then a very tough confidentiality agreement could be in place.
And no one could even tell us about it.
Or comment on the processes.
Damn you BA for being such a distraction.
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HPhack
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No one ever got banned from here that I know, but there certainly were a large number who left and cited confidentiality of their ideas as part of that reason (like Peter). If the "edict" Exu was rambling about was something we did as Sentries, then that would mean we're the ones he is describing as having a "right handed agreement?" But Exu has never been involved with the Sentries but claims to part of that agreement and edict?
I suspect he was rambling about something else.
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Unfictionrose
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| I suspect he was rambling about something else. |
Well, I'm out of ideas.
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