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Dav Flamerock
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That could definitely be the case Biff. In that case I would lean towards "to Austin" (he has to go to Alan to get the stuff, because Alan can't exactly get it himself) in the transcription. So then (assuming that DC sent this) does that mean that Devon is coming out to the coast?
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Octopiii
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| Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 7:26 pm Post subject: |
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I searched the craigslists to see if I could find anything that could give us a clue as to who the photographer is. Going all the way back to last April, there's this:
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#13. Is a picture worth a 1000 words? - w4m
2007-04-14, 12:05AM EDT
City: louisville
Group: 1
You: Walking with the others, taking pictures of me and the nightmare around us.
Me: Standing alone on the street, watching and trying to stay out of the way.
photographers capture the world around them, but do they live it? photographers see people, but do they know them?
Do you remember the picture of me?
Call me. I'm sure I will bseeingu
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That's way back in the very first batch, though, not sure how pertinent it is. However, DC would probably be aware of the craigslists and perhaps knows the terminology BA uses better than we do. Oddly enough, it's the only craigslist posting BA used for Louisville...
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Jjason
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| Posted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 9:38 pm Post subject: |
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| Dav Flamerock wrote: |
| That could definitely be the case Biff. In that case I would lean towards "to Austin" (he has to go to Alan to get the stuff, because Alan can't exactly get it himself) in the transcription. So then (assuming that DC sent this) does that mean that Devon is coming out to the coast? |
It is a pretty weird coincidence that he mentions two cities of original sentries, but I can't think of any reason why he'd be referring to Alan at all. I mean, Chorazos probably knows about all the Sentries but A. Why would they tell DC about them? and B. Even if they had, why would DC be delivering anything to Alan? Or having any sort of relationship with him at all? I guess we'll have to wait a week to get more information.
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I searched the craigslists to see if I could find anything that could give us a clue as to who the photographer is. Going all the way back to last April, there's this:
That's way back in the very first batch, though, not sure how pertinent it is. However, DC would probably be aware of the craigslists and perhaps knows the terminology BA uses better than we do. Oddly enough, it's the only craigslist posting BA used for Louisville... |
Many of the earlier craigslist posts corresponded to people, so maybe that's it. But none of the Sentries lived in Louisville and it doesn't look like that one was in any of the packages we recieved. So it might correspond to somebody we don't know about - possibly Peter, although from what we've learned I'd probably wager that he spends most of his time at the Sugar Grove facility, one of the dreamers we don't know where they live yet, or maybe somebody mysterious we haven't met yet. 
But personally I think the photographer refers the people who are watching and following him, so Foresythe and (possibly) Chorazos. The pause right before he says photographer was probably him thinking up a good code word for the people following him.
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Obtusitivity
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| Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 4:11 am Post subject: |
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Hi, Marie.
This, uh, this photographer is being a complete asshole,
and I can't get Austin to pick up his work.
but those photos are going to have to be in Boulder, next week.
Anyway, I'll call, call with instructions when I arrive.
Thanks.
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So I'd like to point out that DC had no connection to DC whatsoever if I recall -- and Marie wasn't connected to chorazos -- so i personally think that barking anywhere near that tree would be a waste of time (my own personal opinion).
As far as this being some peter-related code, I don't think that's very-damned-likely either. The fact of the matter is that Peter had been absent and out of communication with the outpost (Marie, Howie, and the gang) for years before popping back up last october -- in fact, i believe that he and art had stayed in communication, but the rest of our founders had no idea what the fuck he'd been up to. so tree #2 -- not so great an idea.
Now i'm not trying to indicate i know what the fuck is going on here, but bear with me here --
this line: "and I can't get Austin to pick up his work. " could mean so many things..
it could refer to a dude who's name is actually "Austin".
it could refer to a dude who resides in Austin, and the caller didn't want to mention his full name (mr. camacho was from the area -- as has already been pointed out).
it could indicate that whoever this fellow is, he did not want to pick up photos taken by the aforementioned photographer (surveilance photos? tasteful nudes? who knows)
it could indicate that whoever this Austin fellow is, he has not been answering his work phone (mr. camacho again).
The photos need to be in boulder -- well that's Art country, so a harmless next step might be pinging our friend Arthur on the subject. (i'll shoot one off tomorrow morning, feel free to beat me to the punch, since you all seem to have forgotten your previous dislike of him -- .)
and the dude follows up by saying he'll send instructions when he arrives-- sweet. good shit. now arrives where? San Francisco? Austin? Boulder?
also -- it's highly unlikely that peter was the photographer that took mr. german-what-the-fuck's name, since the photo filename indicated both the name,date,and location where it was taken -- and it was taken in the big apple i believe, while mr. severn was conducting his little gov't conference on security in WV.
also -- has anyone cruised the CL's of the locations mentioned? SFBay, Austin TX, and Boulder CO? (if so, then please kick me in the balls -- i didn't bother checking the thread for that one).
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Celina63
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| Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 2:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Obtusitivity wrote: |
The photos need to be in boulder -- well that's Art country, so a harmless next step might be pinging our friend Arthur on the subject. (i'll shoot one off tomorrow morning, feel free to beat me to the punch, since you all seem to have forgotten your previous dislike of him -- .) |
Please remember that Art's email is being monitored - so if you, Obs, or anyone else should contact him via that media, please keep that in mind.
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Jjason
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| Posted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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| Obtusitivity wrote: |
| The photos need to be in boulder -- well that's Art country, so a harmless next step might be pinging our friend Arthur on the subject. (i'll shoot one off tomorrow morning, feel free to beat me to the punch, since you all seem to have forgotten your previous dislike of him -- .) |
I'd personally prefer if you didn't. To the extent that we can, I think it'd be better to keep our dealings with DC seperate from our dealings with Foresythe, to the extent that that's possible with the surveillance and everything (maybe DC actually fooled whoever was watching him. I doubt the spook assigned to shadow him would've known the implications of what he said). If we can learn things about Chorazos via DC, we can use them for leverage against Foresythe. But it'll be worthless if we just tell them for free. The less Foresythe knows about what we're doing with DC, the better our chances of getting some leverage later on.
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Transtar
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| Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 4:53 pm Post subject: |
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New VM from Devon. Looks like there will be one tonight as well so I''ll keep on top of that. Link: http://providence.sentry.googlepages.com/Jan28-VM.wav
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| All the @#$& is hitting the fan. Someone tried to kidnap the Diviner in Boulder, and now he's on the run. But the photographer is in Austin acting strange, arguing he wants more for the photos than what he agreed. {sigh} If I can get the Photographer to agree to Thursday there might be a chance to get to the Diviner in Los Angeles before he leaves on Monday. But the Sculptor also wants someone at this party in Manhattan on Thursday night to pick up something else for the Diviner. {sigh} [] three places at the same time. {cough} First things first, I'm going to get [n?] providence +1 on the Manhattan party for Thursday night, then see if I can get the photographer to agree to a Thursday meeting as well. THEN we can figure out if we can meet the Diviner in Los Angeles or New York or wherever he ends up after that. I'm screwed without you guys. I'll call again tomorrow night |
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Lestat5891
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| Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:00 pm Post subject: |
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| Obtusitivity wrote: |
Lestat's To Do List:
1. Read Fucking Wiki
2. Practice Tact
3. fuck off |
Fine. See ya.
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Dante
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| Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 5:50 pm Post subject: |
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I have a slightly different transcription that I am posting, reformatted slightly, plus I'm adding the previous voicemail in an attempt to figure out what the deal is here:
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Hi, Marie.
This, uh, this photographer is being a complete asshole,
and I can't get Austin to pick up his work.
but those photos are going to have to be in Boulder, next week.
Anyway, I'll call, call with instructions when I arrive.
Thanks. |
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All the @#$& is hitting the fan.
Someone tried to kidnap the Diviner in Boulder, and now he's on the run.
But the Photographer in Austin is acting strange, arguing he wants more for the photos than we agreed. {sigh}
If I can get the Photographer to agree to Thursday there might be a chance to get them to the Diviner in Los Angeles before he leaves on Monday.
But the Sculptor also wants someone at this party in Manhattan on Thursday night to pick up something else for the Diviner. {sigh}
Basically I need to be at three places at the same time. {cough}
First things first, I'm going to get [N providence +1] on the Manhattan party for Thursday, then see if I can get the Photographer to agree to a Thursday meeting as well. THEN we can figure out if we can get the Diviner in Los Angeles or New York or wherever he ends up after that.
I'm screwed without you guys. I'll call again tomorrow night |
It's like a freakin' LSAT problem:
[placeholder for my attempt to puzzle this through] |
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Octopiii
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| Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:16 pm Post subject: |
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I think another question is what we should do about Devon's chores. If we do run them for them, it will presumably result in our gaining possesion of mystic and/or unique items that will be important to someone - Peter, Chorazos, whomever. Right now, we're playing the part of a dog begging for scraps; with control over these items, we can finally have some say in the matter. These items would give us something that Peter would likely be willing to give up important information. The corollary of keeping these items, however, is hanging Devon out to dry. Personally, I think it's worth it, as Chorazos presumably needs these items in order to conduct their ritual that we're trying to stop anyway.
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Transtar
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| Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 6:37 pm Post subject: |
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New VM for tonight: http://providence.sentry.googlepages.com/Jan29-VM.wav
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| Oh guys, This might just work if I get your help. The Photographer wants me Thursday at 8 at Ausitn at Ginnys. Ask the bartender if DALE is going to play chickens%*^ this Sunday and he should walk up to you and give you the package. The SCULPTOR wants to meet on Thursday too, same time, but in New York City. You gotta be careful, yougotta be careful, you gotta be real careful with him, thats the house of the godfather above [gearing??] You're on the list as N. Providence. Ask him if he'll ever bring himself to read a modern epic poem. And he should have something for you as well. And then, PRAY we pull this off in time. |
Going against a gut feeling here by posting this, I just hope culties aren't lookign
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WolfHawk
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| Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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This is confusing.
How did we get two calls on the same day when the first one said the second call would be made the next day?
Are we supposed to send someone in New York (oh, Sinyx!) somewhere again? AND someone in Austin somewhere? Or is DC just trying to keep us informed of (whose?) movements? Who is he (supposed to be?) talking to? Does he think someone is recording his calls or eavesdropping on them in another way? If so, what's to keep them from tracing the calls right to whoever is getting these calls phone number(s)?
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Dav Flamerock
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| Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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We probably got the first one last night. And then the next one at like 3 today. lol
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Transtar
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| Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 8:25 pm Post subject: |
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Dav got it right, I got the one from yesterday (was left at 8pm on the 28th) and I kept an eye out for the new one that we got at 5 pm today (29th)
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Jjason
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| Posted: Tue Jan 29, 2008 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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| Consider it done. |
Ah come on, don't be that way. Obs is an asshole* and even he admitted that he probably should've been more tactful there. Don't quit just because of that. We're all a bit frustrated right now, mostly because we don't have anything solid to work on, just trying to negotiate with people we don't understand and barely trust. But we've got to stick together here. We can't do this alone.
As for the voicemails, this is what I can figure out: We've got three different people here. There's the Photographer (who I guess isn't a reference to anything but an actual photographer) in Austin and the Sculptor in Manhattan. They're both making/have something for the Diviner, who used to live in Boulder but is on the run because of kidnapping attempt. He'll either end in LA or NY, but DC doesn't know which. Both the Photographer and the Sculptor only willing to meet on Thursday, which is where we come in.
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| I think another question is what we should do about Devon's chores. If we do run them for them, it will presumably result in our gaining possesion of mystic and/or unique items that will be important to someone - Peter, Chorazos, whomever. Right now, we're playing the part of a dog begging for scraps; with control over these items, we can finally have some say in the matter. These items would give us something that Peter would likely be willing to give up important information. The corollary of keeping these items, however, is hanging Devon out to dry. Personally, I think it's worth it, as Chorazos presumably needs these items in order to conduct their ritual that we're trying to stop anyway. |
Maybe we can do both. Depending on what the items we get are, we might be able to copy them, subtly sabotage them and pass fake copies on to Chorazos. That way DC remains safe, we get some primo bargaining chips, and Chorazos fails their ritual. It runs the risk that Chorazos might figure it out, but it's dramatically less risky than either keeping the stuff (which basically signs DC's death warrent) or letting them have it (which might end the world), plus even if they do figure it out, they may just blame the Photographer or the Sculptor. And honestly, I don't care what happens to those guys.
The only question really is A. our ability to make convincing copies and B. How best to alter them. We'll have to wait and see about A but B seems like a bigger problem. I have no idea what you'd do to an item to make it useful for a ritual. If only we could get in touch with Exu - that's his area of expertise.
*And I mean that in the nicest possible way (:
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