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Obtusitivity
Joined: 05 Jun 2007
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Location: Santa Rosa, CA
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 Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 7:00 pm Post subject: Why. OBTUSE RANT |
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So here's somewhere to drop your theory on why BA is posting. or in general, what is going on:
I know nothing is clear at this point, but all the factoids floating around in my mind keep leaning towards one very frightening and distinct possibility:
A group or individual (corazos) is interested in obtaining power and / or knowledge on a scale that man has (up until this point) been unable to acheive. They may be attempting to use computers / hi-tech means, to summon Yog-Sothoth, who is described as being both the key and the gate to the great old ones. He exists in all times, and knows all. sees all. by summoning Yog-Sothoth, this person may believe they can find those places where the Great Old Ones Tread, and where they may be now.
If this person (or persons) is able to acheive this goal, then i would believe the outcome would be very, very bleak for all of us, as well as for the world as we know it.
I believe that B.A. is somehow tuned in to what's going on, and while dreaming, is walking through the possible future we may be facing. (though, this does not explain the package at the psychics).
From what loose information we have, it seems as though B.A. is as much a pawn in this as we are, which begs the question:
Who sent the packages? and why?
why. why. why. |
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JimmyMcForum
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| Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 7:08 pm Post subject: |
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I wrote a microfiction once about cultists using a supernetwork (like what NASA and SETI use) to crack the cipher on a shunned manuscript.
Kinda wish I hadn't now. |
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Jjason
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Location: Portland, OR
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| Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:22 pm Post subject: Re: Why. OBTUSE RANT |
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| Obtusitivity wrote: |
| A group or individual (corazos) is interested in obtaining power and / or knowledge on a scale that man has (up until this point) been unable to acheive. They may be attempting to use computers / hi-tech means, to summon Yog-Sothoth, who is described as being both the key and the gate to the great old ones. He exists in all times, and knows all. sees all. by summoning Yog-Sothoth, this person may believe they can find those places where the Great Old Ones Tread, and where they may be now. |
Well, to be exact, it's not Chorazos that's doing this. I think all evidence at this point indicates that the Chorazos cult really did die out when everybody thinks they did. Instead it's somebody going by the name Spukhafte Fernwirkung, who is merely invoking the pact of Chorazos. Basically (from what I can figure) Yog Sothoth promised Chorazos that he'd show up if they called and not SF is using this promise to get Yog Sothoth to show up for him. Except in a creepy, non-euclidian, unknownable way.
Ok, buckle your seatbelts cause I'm gonna think out loud for a while here:
The one solid connection we have between the Craigslist postings and the packages is D.C. - she (for some reason I'm assuming DC is female. I have no evidence) painted the picture that got chopped up and sent out and she wrote the letter at the Palm Readers. Now, the letter makes direct reference to Saint Feline, but that doesn't necessarily mean that the letter was directed at BA - the fact that it was left in New York for somebody who lives in Florida would suggest that it's meant for somebody else.
Now I think we can know for sure that whoevers posting the Craigslist postings isn't the same person as Spukhafte Fernwirkung - information from the Craigslist postings has been helping us find out about what he's been doing, providing us with passwords and all that. So there is that fact.
An important question - does BSeeingU.com belong to the BA that Kevin met? Or the voice mail box where we've been leaving our messages? Cause if not, and if she's really not involved with the craigslist postings then I'm inclined to believe that she's not, then what we're left with is somebody who created a website, sent out packages, posted on Craigslist, and has been harvesting our dreams all the while pretending to be a lady in Florida who only wants to run a peaceful business as a fortune teller and try to deal with her increasingly bad dreams. Towards what purpose? Maybe to hide from SF, to put him off the trail if things went south?
The purposes of the packages the faux-BA sent out was to get us together. To guide us to Sentry Outpost and to give us all a reason to start working together. Why did the faux-BA need us all together? Probably to combat whatever SF is up to, since that's what the Craigslist postings, which were a continuation of the contents of the packages, has been helping us with.
I think all of this points back to a theory I had some time ago, which is that BA, DC, and SF* are all part of the same group but for some reason BA has decided that she's not comfortable with this whole summoning Yog Sothoth plan and she's decided to work to prevent it. But she fears retribution from SF and the rest of the group, so she's been only able to work indirectly, giving us hints here and there, and all the time working to avoid detection. Which is both why she's so frustratingly oblique all the time, how she knows and why she's pretending to be BA - if her meddling is discovered, than an innocent psychic in Florida with a convenient name takes the fall and faux-BA has time to escape.
What do we know about this hypothetical group? Well, I can think of at least four members: SF, DC, faux-BA, and the referenced "she" in DC's letter (another possibility is that she is Ms. Feline, as she doesn't know why). They apparently communicate using dreams. They've come up with a plan to infect computers towards the end of summoning Yog-Sothoth and opening a gate to places unknown and no doubt unpleasent, possibly to do something to/with the Elder Gods (wake them? Steal their powers? Does it really matter?) They're bad news.
So, in summary, my theory is:
Who: A rebelling member of a group that plans to summon Yog Sothoth
Why: To get us together so we can stop the group from summoning Yog Sothoth.
Did that make any sense?
*I've gone initial's crazy! |
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Feline Femme
Joined: 13 May 2007
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| Posted: Tue Jun 19, 2007 8:28 pm Post subject: |
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| To follow your post, if the package in new york wasn't meant for the BA we know, wouldn't it be scary if the BA the package is for was one of us, but we didn't know? Just a random thought. |
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Will
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| Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 2:18 pm Post subject: |
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Do we know whether or not:
1) B.A. sent the packages? (recent info is 'no,' I guess)
2) B.A. is posting the CLs? (I've been assuming yes, but others seem to think not)
3) B.A. knows DC?
4) B.A. is checking her voice mail? If so, why is she surprised that people are contacting her in her dreams? If not, then how is the information appearing in the CLs?
5) B.A. knows anything about Chorazos?
I'm trying to catch on to what's going on here... |
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Jjason
Joined: 21 Apr 2007
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Location: Portland, OR
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| Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 7:31 pm Post subject: |
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| Will wrote: |
Do we know whether or not:
1) B.A. sent the packages? (recent info is 'no,' I guess)
2) B.A. is posting the CLs? (I've been assuming yes, but others seem to think not)
3) B.A. knows DC?
4) B.A. is checking her voice mail? If so, why is she surprised that people are contacting her in her dreams? If not, then how is the information appearing in the CLs?
5) B.A. knows anything about Chorazos?
I'm trying to catch on to what's going on here... |
1. We don't know this one but it seems from Kevin's visit that the answer is no.
2. Whoever sent out the packages is probably also posting the craigslist postings - the first Craiglist postings were printed out and included in the packages, that's the only way we've been able to know that they're being posted at all. There was also an early correlation between cities where Craigslist postings were made and cities where somebody recieved a package. All of this implies a connection between the packages and the craigslist postings but doesn't necessarily prove one.
3. The watercolor was signed by D.C., so whoever put out the packages has had some contact with D.C. Also we were lead to a letter from D.C. by the craigslist postings, so there's another definitive connection.
4. Dreams sent into the voicemail have shown up on the craigslist. If BA didn't send out the packages or post the Craigslist postings then I'm inclined to believe that the voicemail we've been sending things to isn't actually her voicemail.
5. Whoever's been posting on Craigslist knows Chorazos's passwords, since they've been included in the craigslist postings. That's the only definitive connection I think we have.
What I'm currently leaning towards is that the packages, the Craigslist postings, the voicemail, and bseeingu.com are all being controlled by the same person but that person is not B.A. Saint Feline, not the B.A. Saint Feline that Kevin met in Florida. Instead it's somebody pretending to be her for reasons unknown.
I suppose there's one way to prove this theory. Kevin, I know you're not so hot on talking about what happened with BA, but did the BA you met have the same voice as the BA on the voicemail's answering message? If she did that doesn't necessarily disprove my theory (they could have stolen a recording of her voice) but if it is different it's solid evidence for it.
Hope that's all helpful and coherant. |
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Biff
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| Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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Ahh I see. So what you're saying is that BA is just some random chick that GMO went to see in Florida who just happens to be having bad dreams. It's not her website, phone number or anything else. She probably doesn't exist and GMO is a lying liar.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Actually, it kind of does make sense if you suspect Kevin of orchestrating the whole thing. Hey Kevin, let's hear your best girly-voice.  |
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GetMEout
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| Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 10:20 pm Post subject: |
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*puts on his pretty pink frock*
She's real. She didn't send the packages. She is writing the CLs. DC is a mystery unless it comes paired with AC, in which case it's an awesome hair band. I dunno about the voice mail, all I know is that she gets headaches from the phone and I didn't orchestrate this I don't think I have the attention span to pull something like this together. I'd be halfway through and thinking "Aruba, Aruba sounds nice," and then I'd just go and have a hot dog from the shiny silver cart and get distracted by something equally shiny.
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Taluria
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| Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 10:37 pm Post subject: |
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I'm thinking about sending her my e-mail over the voicemail. Than maybe she or whoever is running this show will make some more direct contact. I mean, recently, most of the stuff has been very roundabout in getting to us.
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WolfHawk
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| Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 10:38 pm Post subject: |
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Did you tell her about the forum here? Let her know that we are interested in helping her sort through this?
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Taluria
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| Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 10:40 pm Post subject: |
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Haven't done it yet, I thought I'd get a few second and third opinions first.
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Jjason
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| Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 10:55 pm Post subject: |
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| Biff wrote: |
Ahh I see. So what you're saying is that BA is just some random chick that GMO went to see in Florida who just happens to be having bad dreams. It's not her website, phone number or anything else. She probably doesn't exist and GMO is a lying liar.
Yeah, that makes sense.
Actually, it kind of does make sense if you suspect Kevin of orchestrating the whole thing. Hey Kevin, let's hear your best girly-voice. |
Happens to be having bad dreams + has had her identity stolen by secret creepy people. Of course, my theory is pretty much blown by:
| GetMEout wrote: |
*puts on his pretty pink frock*
She's real. She didn't send the packages. She is writing the CLs. DC is a mystery unless it comes paired with AC, in which case it's an awesome hair band. I dunno about the voice mail, all I know is that she gets headaches from the phone and I didn't orchestrate this I don't think I have the attention span to pull something like this together. I'd be halfway through and thinking "Aruba, Aruba sounds nice," and then I'd just go and have a hot dog from the shiny silver cart and get distracted by something equally shiny. |
This would be a good point to insert a disclaimer - I actually don't have any idea what I'm talking about and it's all groundless speculation and jumping to conclusions based on too little information. Accuracy or consistancy not guaranteed. Reading my posts is not recommended for woman who are pregnant or may become pregnant or people over the age of 94.
That said, since BA is putting out the craigslist postings but didn't send out the packages, we're left with somebody who wanted to both call our attention to what BA was doing with the craigslist postings and direct us to the website. And who's name presumably also starts with B. I don't have any theories about who they might be. Give me some time, I'll come up with more crazy theories.
BTW, that's a nice frock GMO. Thanks for the info. |
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GetMEout
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| Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 11:09 pm Post subject: |
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Why, thank you. I thought it was a lovely piece of frippery, myself. *bows*
And dig the disclaimer, man. Caused a little snort over here.
You can try to get a hold of BA, but she didn't seem like much of a joiner  Reticent to share an appetizer. Or maybe she's just got germaphobia or something, man.
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Taluria
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| Posted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 11:56 pm Post subject: |
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Well, to be terribly gauche, there is at least one other person involved whose first name starts with "B", but that doesn't look like a man's handwriting to me.
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Biff
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| Posted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 12:15 am Post subject: |
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| Taluria wrote: |
| Well, to be terribly gauche, there is at least one other person involved whose first name starts with "B", but that doesn't look like a man's handwriting to me. |
Don't discount that....all possibilities should be considered for plausibility. |
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