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Unfictionrose



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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

So there is something called an orphan process too. I don't think that the little girl is an orphan as she waits at the library.

It would be great if we could tie locations and objects in the story to processes and locations on the server.

I'm not going to even bother to roll for a sanity check. I know the answer already.
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 5:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfictionrose wrote:
So there is something called an orphan process too.


Oh, Rose, hold on to your hat. Zombies and orphans and daemons, oh my!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daemon_(computer_software)

Unfictionrose wrote:
I'm not going to even bother to roll for a sanity check. I know the answer already.


I don't think I get rolls anymore.
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PostPosted: Wed May 23, 2007 6:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are also have headless processes - of which daemons are one example.

So it's possible to have a process termination fail leaving a headless daemon zombie process that needs reaping Very Happy
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PostPosted: Thu May 24, 2007 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

so we have the general computer stuff of:

the name/finger protocol which seems to be a way of getting status reports on a person or computer system on a network - like the 'who' command in the mud that sapagoo showed me yesterday. My reference is wikipedia of course.

the orphan process

the zombie process

the daemon process

and then we have our specific stuff

boil.c

screamer.c
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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2007 10:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stu: Is http://www.ronomi.com/backup/ yours? Just poking around for something maybe like http://www.ronomi.com/backup/121606...

EDIT:

Ohhh, maybe with a username of "boil" and a password of "Xé:3a"? I mean, just curious...

(thanks nax)

EDIT No. 2:

So, we find on ronomi.com this little gem: http://www.ronomi.com/backup/121606, username boil, password Xé:3a.

What do we find? Well, there's BOIL, a file that seems to be a clean copy of our big ol' text dump, and something else called oblation:

Oblation wrote:
I am Spukhafte Fernwirkung. I invoke the Pact of Chorazos. I bind it to this work that I have done for You, Yog-Sothoth. I bind the three names together with this seal of oblation.

Yog-Sothoth! You know the gate. You are the gate. You are the key and
guardian of the gate. Yog-Sothoth! I prepare the way. I place the keystone glyph in the arch. I pave the path for Your supplicants. Yog-Sothoth! Bless the work of the hands of Your servants. Remember what we have done for You.

This altar has been prepared, and this oblation placed upon it, so that all
may know it is consecrated it to You. Receive this sacrifice, prepared for You like a trussed drove. Let the blood upon this altar draw Your supplicants to You from all corners of the wilderness. Let this altar prepare Your supplicants for prayer under the strange moon of shattered local realism.

Yog-Sothoth, remember us! We toil ceaselessly to be worthy, to be counted among the least of Your servants. Yog-Sothoth, remember us! We prepare these nurseries in Your name. Yog-Sothoth, remember us! Open for us the gates of entropy when we whisper Your name and ours in the dead of night. Find favor for us.

FYI, Spukhafte Fernwirkung is Einstein's "spooky action at a distance", a reference to a particular thing of quantum mechanics.


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PostPosted: Sun May 27, 2007 10:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mapmaker wrote:
Stu: Is http://www.ronomi.com/backup/ yours? Just poking around for something maybe like http://www.ronomi.com/backup/121606...



Shit no, dude. I'll be honest. I haven't actually made a backup of my site, like, ever, 'cause like, there's nothing there. At least there wasn't anything there before. Now I've got some boil-y thing burbling away, but I don't want to back that up so much. Jab at it, sure. Pop it like a good white headed pimple? Absolutely. Keep it forever and ever? Nope. Especially not now after reading about Bryce and the, uh, birds.

And before anyone asks, I swear I did not suggest that he do anything with birds ever while dealing with the server issues. Swear to whatever godly bit is floating around out there in the ether keeping watch and preparing to smite the heathens. I thought my friends were doing weird crap this weekend with their "patriotic" wild squirrel roast but hooookay....Shocked

I'm sorry Bryce. I loved the time we spent together and will always cherish it close to my heart. Especially our many old man/snotty kid fights. *sniff* He's a good guy. I was learning a lot from him. Wish I'd known about the dove thing earlier. Coulda sent him some stuffed animals to cuddle with or something Confused Those always made me feel better.

I guess I know why he stopped emailing, though. Urrf.


EDIT:
Mapmaker quoting this oblation POS wrote:
I am Spukhafte Fernwirkung


WTF? Now my site's invaded by some Swedish IKEAbeast calling up some Yog Sotough thingie? Damn. I'd better not find a Poang hosted in there, too. Those things are a bitch to deal with. Comfy, though.
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 14, 2007 11:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mapmaker wrote:
FYI, Spukhafte Fernwirkung is Einstein's "spooky action at a distance", a reference to a particular thing of quantum mechanics.


What about the 'action at a distance' that relates to computer science? Could that fit our situation better?

Quote:
Action at a distance is an anti-pattern (a recognized common error) in which behavior in one part of a program varies wildly based on difficult or impossible to identify operations in another part of the program. The way to avoid the problems associated with action at a distance are a proper design which avoids global variables and alters data in a controlled and local manner.

The term is based on the physics concept of the same name, where particles may be created that cancel each other out. Such particles instantaneously communicate information across space regardless of distance in what Albert Einstein called "spooky action at a distance".

Bugs due to "action at a distance" may arise because a program component is doing something at the wrong time, or affecting something it should not. It is very difficult, however, to track down which component is responsible. Side effects from innocent actions can put the program in an unknown state, so local data is not necessarily local. The solution in this particular scenario is to define which components should be interacting with which others. A proper design that accurately defines the interface between parts of a program, and that avoid shared states, can largely eliminate problems caused by action at a distance.

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PostPosted: Thu Jul 19, 2007 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mapmaker wrote:
FYI, Spukhafte Fernwirkung is Einstein's "spooky action at a distance", a reference to a particular thing of quantum mechanics.


Interesting article here (this thread seems to be the best place for it): http://science.slashdot.org/science/07/07/18/2250258.shtml.
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