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Mapmaker

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Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 8:22 pm Post subject: [AFTERMATH] Watch your backs—Startrek Ferngully is MAD |
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Looks like Spukhafte is mad. Mad enough to send a video to his minions. Arthur's chronicled the problems on a page at the bunker. There are two notes of interest: one from Peter, which at least implies that he's not gonna kill Art (good news):
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From: Peter Severn <severnSPLATforsythesecurity.com>
Date: December 20, 2008 3:34:19 AM EST
To: Arthur Lydney <lydneySPLATforsythesecurity.com>
Subject: The shit you stirred up.
Importance: High
Arthur,
There aren't many case files that I have flagged to wake me after
hours, especially after a day of traveling, but #17 with high priority
is one of them. I know you might not be as familiar with the mountains
of information associated with that case as I am, but you know enough
about Chorazos to know how unusual this kind of direct message is from
"Spukhafte".
I assume whatever flushed this is at least tangentially connected with
your recent extra-curricular activities. Perhaps this means there was
some benefit to your mishandling of that situation after all: I've long
suspected that had been some kind of power struggle happening in the
Chorazos Cult.
Unfortunately, though, I also now suspect you've put more of your
friends in mortal danger. You have my permission to warn them to watch
their back, after all, you helped to create this fallout.
Let this be a lesson to you of the dangers of operating on a rogue
basis outside the scope of Council authorization. Visit my office
Monday: we're going to give you a nice, safe desk job underground until
you've had a chance to learn from the errors of your ways.
Peter
Sent from my BlackBerry |
And this other page, with an embedded Quicktime video, showing that Ted Wheeler still is on the prowl and that Spukhafte is maaad. Watch out, everyone!
EDIT: Here is a direct link to the video if people are having trouble. Try Right Click > Save As and using Quicktime to open it on the desktop. |
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Catherwood

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Ia.
I invoke the rituals of the Bargain, and offer a trade in the name of the Chorazos, to those who seek knowledge of the Old Ones.
A man, a dangerous man, seeks to undo all that we have worked for these long centuries, all that we have suffered for.
The man poses as my father, whom you knew to be head of the Host of the Chorazos. But he is an imposter, and he is not to be trusted.
I offer as a reward ten-thousand dollars to any who bring me the bodies of those who may serve or aid him.
They must be whole, for I must reduce their bodies to their essential salts for interrogation.
To any who can bring me the man posing as my father, alive, to face my vengence, I offer you your pick of the artifacts from the treasury of the Chorazos, along with the power that comes with the eternal gratitude of the Spukhafte Fernwirkung and the Cult of the Chorazos.
Such is my word,
such is my bond,
such is my bargain.
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Jjason

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Posted: Sat Dec 20, 2008 10:46 pm Post subject: |
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So...
Is Exu or is Exu not Anwell Barierascu? Cause this video suggests that he is. Or more likely, that SF thinks that he is. From what I understand, the serious of events that lead to this video are:
1. Exu gives the NY Sentries the letter
2. The NY Sentries give the letter to the Sculptor
3. The Sculptor gives the letter to SF
4. SF calls for everybody to go all Kaiser Soze on Exu.
Now that I think about it, I think it's more likely that Exu isn't Anwell but is just claiming to be to get SF pissed off.
Also, the Bargain seems to the evil version of the Agreement, a community of people larger than Chorazos involved this the whole yog sothoth, forbidden works business. _________________ WHO IS SAINT FENLINE?
"We remain convinced that this is the best defensive posture to adopt in order to minimize casualties when the Great Old Ones return from beyond the stars to eat our brains." - from The Concrete Jungle by Charles Stross |
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Dav Flamerock

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Okay so I've looked over the articles and letters and such that we've gathered. Here's a list of the FACTS, followed by a comprehensive "story" of what happened:
ARTICLE ABOUT BARIERASCU:
- Barierascu Charitable Fund gives lots of money to adoption facilities and such.
- Barierascu family estate is in Chorazin, NY.
- ANWELL was adopted by JORMA in 1943. ANWELL was 2 years old at the time.
- JORMA was adopted by VEKOSLAV in the late 1890s.
- JORMA died in 1962
- The Barierascu family has been into adoption for 6 generations.
- ANWELL has a son named GUSTEV, who he adopted in 1987. GUSTEV was at least 2 years old at the time, putting his birth year around 1984-85.
EMAIL FROM PETER ABOUT BARIERASCU
- Magicians have been known to make "black pilgrimage[s]" to Chorazin.
- There is a point of importance that I have not yet fully deciphered, but it goes something like this: "and some of them like Parsons made a point to flaunt Agreements they did not participate in by detailing the oaths it led to for others to try and follow." My take on that is that some magicians talk explicitly about agreements that they don't take part in and try to get other people to take part in them. Could this be the "Bargain" that Spukhafte refers to? (see the Chorazos Message)
- GUSTAV buried his father, ANWELL, in 2005.
- The Barierascu "family estate" belonged to a family known as the "van der Hyle"s prior to Vekoslav's purchase of the plot shortly before his death.
EDDIE POPE RESEARCH ON CHORAZOS
- "Modern record have the cult's HQ in upstate New York, near the Attica state penitentiary." It just so happens that the Barierascu family estate is near Attica.
EXU'S LETTER
- The names JORMA and ANWELL are crossed out in the "to" line, replaced by the name GUSTEV.
- For fourty-six years, the author has been hiding. Going back 46 years from 2008 puts us at 1962.
- The author has been waiting for GUSTEV to throw away what he stole from the author, while the author still has what GUSTEV wants.
- The author seems to have the upper hand, as GUSTEV's greed is enabling the author's plots.
- The author can see GUSTEV's dreams, in which GUSTEV desires artifacts from Yian-Ho that GUSTEV left behind. The author has relocated these artifacts to a more safe location.
- The author deciphered the [Book of the Hidden] and used the knowledge therein to open the "gate with the silver key" which then allowed him to read what was contained in the Temple of Yian-Ho. (Which GUSTEV has been searching for)
- The author has the upper hand over GUSTEV because he still has the "face" that GUSTEV stole from him.
- GUSTEV is of the mistaken belief that he killed the author, and this has allowed the author to learn more about GUSTEV than GUSTEV would like.
- The author explicitly states his desire to destroy GUSTEV's work. He specifically mentions a bargain. (see the Chorazos Message)
- GUSTEV is the author's father.
- The author calls himself ANWELL Barierascu, and claims that by killing GUSTEV, he will commit patricide.
WHEW!
That's a LOT of information. Some of it is very contradictory. For example: in the letter, Anwell Barierascu claims that Gustev is his father, when Gustev is actually his adopted son. However, as the letter seems to have been addressed primarily to Anwell's father Jorma, this may make more sense. Why Jorma and Anwell are both on the "to" line and are both crossed out is unknown. I will give a possible explanation below.
NOW, on to speculation. Here is the story as I believe happened. It takes the following assumption to be true: SPUKHAFTE FERNWIRKUNG is actually an ageless shapeshifter, incapable of growing older and capable of becoming whatever person he desires.
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Sometime in the 1800s, Spukhafte Fernwirkung bought the van der Hyle family estate in Chorazin. He did this under the name of Vekoslav Barierascu. Vekoslav then proceeded to adopt a son and heir in the 1890s, who was a man named Jorma. This swiftly became (if it was not already) a highly occult site, and the center of operations for the newest form of the Chorazos Cult. At some point afterwards, Vekoslav killed Jorma and shapeshifted into Jorma's body, becoming his son. This is when Vekoslav died.
Jorma took over Chorazos (rather, as the same person, he continued running it). In 1943 he killed Anwell's parents and "saved" the 2-year-old baby from adoption. He raised Anwell as his son and heir. When Anwell was 21 years old (1941-1962), Anwell discovered that his father, Jorma, had in fact murdered his parents. At that time, Jorma attempted to kill Anwell. Anwell survived, but Jorma believed that his son was actually dead. With Anwell out of the way, Jorma took on Anwell's persona and Jorma "died". Seeing that his father had taken over his life, Anwell changed his name to Jakub U (since he never did tell his students his real last name, he probably doesn't actually have one). He also took on the online monkier "eXu" at some point.
Anwell then became the head honcho of Chorazos. He continued what he had been doing for the past many-score years as the top of the Chorazos chain (while leading Chorazos, he called himself Spukhafte Fernwirkung). Meanwhile, Jakub became a professor at Miskatonic University and a prominent member of the Council. He also at some point became a powerful magician specializing in dreams, enabling him to rifle through his "father"s dreams, thus learning what his father desired from Yian-Ho. He then proceeded to hide the artifacts his "father" sought. This powerful magic that he learned to wield in regards to dreams also enabled him to manifest as the Drummer in the Dreamscape, which he would subsequently use to guide BA and learn about Emmet. Or something.
Meanwhile, Anwell adopted another heir in 1987, who he called Gustev. Gustev grew up and when he was around 21, in 2005, Anwell killed him and took over his body, as he had done to his many other adopted sons previously. As usual, when Anwell became Gustev, Anwell died, and Gustev's actual body was likely used as a proxy for Anwell, because Anwell was not the *actual* dead one. (I'm sorry for the weird name-changing business, but that's the problem with immortal shapeshifters like Spukhafte) Jakub watched this under the protection of an assumed death, and set his plans in motion to get his revenge and probably take down Chorazos at the same time.
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Did you follow that? It has only one flaw--which is that if the Barierascu Article that Johnny the Hack picked up was written in 2006, which I believe it was (Anwell born in 1941, and the article mentions him being 65 years old), then Anwell should have been dead. Because supposedly Anwell died in 2005. But that might have been an error of the author's, as he might have gotten confused over the whole shape-shifting thing. Of course, that assumes that the author is in the know about Spukehafte's true nature.
This speculation would also explain the odd three-named "to" line in eXu's letter (also known as Jakub U or Anwell Barierascu). Jakub first knew Spukhafte as his father, Jorma, which is why he keeps referring to his murder of Spukhafte as "patricide." However, he also knows that Spukhafte is no longer Jorma (hence the crossout), and he is no longer Anwell (hence the crossout), and he is now Gustev.
PS: I have something entirely different to say, this time about the Bargain: I like Jjason's spec that the Bargain is an "evil Agreement" but I do not think it is simply between members of Chorazos. Just like the Agreement covers all sorts of Council members (Forsythe/Knights of Mars Nodens, the Esoteric, and whatever organizations fight on the Temporal and Physical fronts), I believe the Bargain is some sort of inter-cult Agreement. So it's a Bargain that binds Chorazos, the cult of Cthulhu, and whatever other freakyass cults are out there. _________________ ~Dav Flamerock
"There are probably seven persons, in all, who really like my work; and they are enough. I should write even if I were the only patient reader, for my aim is merely self-expression." ~H.P. Lovecraft
I think this means something, but it's going to take a little more digging. ~ Eddie Pope
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Unfictionrose

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Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 10:03 am Post subject: what does all this have to do with BA and our latest effort |
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This just gets weirder all the time. If we have to deal with a shapeshifter, how can we know who anyone is?
I don't know what any of this has to do with BA and our ritual/journey on Friday.
Could the whole thing been arranged/ manipulated by someone from the beginning just so EXu could get the letter (finally) to the Sculptor to deliver on?
I know we had to get the cylinder back to the dreamscape...poor Bryce...but perhaps this whole thing was begun with the visit Bryce had in the hospital from the fraudulent doctor? He seems to be the person who gave Bryce the idea about the rituals to revive his friends.
I now think that Bryce or perhaps the person with Bryce got the materials that were in the boxes. It is arguable that the boxes had items that only the murderer would have had.
It was only because of the cylinder, that Art was able to get somehow from George, that this meeting between Exu and the Sculptor happened. Maybe Riley sent the cylinder to Art.
Note: as far as I know, no one ever opened the cylinder.
I can't pull all this stuff together yet, but I think that this latest excursion was in great part lead by Dr. Riley and Exu manipulating us. In turn, they are being manipulated by someone more powerful than them. I think Riley, EXu and BA are all trying to hold back the chaos. I'm not sure who is causing the chaos.
But I think that all of us as well as BA, Art, Howard, etc. are just pawns in a larger game the chaos-antichaos forces are playing.
Still have no idea what the game being played in the casino was, maybe it had to do with Bryce going into the dreamworld as a self-sacrifice.
also, Biff has his theory on the basic timeline as follows:
in this post _________________ Servers aren't part of the collective unconscious. ~HPHack
DC had us give B.A. the finger. I don't think you can get much more explicit than that! ~Y2K |
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Biff

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Good writeup Dav. I agree
One point. eXu is not a master of dreams. He seems to be able to travel to or manifest in the "underworld" through various means, but dreams are not his method. The dreamworld and underworld are parallel.
rose: interesting that you mention George as the source of the cylinder, I didn't see that explicitly stated (no surprise, I haven't gone through all of the evidence) but it makes lots of sense. I assumed the kids got it out of the temple and died in the "madlands/dreamlands/underworld" with the bleedin' iDiOTS. :p
If the cylinder got out through the Bryce ritual, then it would implicate Spukey Ferschlugginner as the one controlling Bryce's actions.
That said, I prefer the George theory. |
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Jamescarson

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Jjason

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Posted: Sun Dec 21, 2008 2:59 pm Post subject: |
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| PS: I have something entirely different to say, this time about the Bargain: I like Jjason's spec that the Bargain is an "evil Agreement" but I do not think it is simply between members of Chorazos. Just like the Agreement covers all sorts of Council members (Forsythe/Knights of Mars Nodens, the Esoteric, and whatever organizations fight on the Temporal and Physical fronts), I believe the Bargain is some sort of inter-cult Agreement. So it's a Bargain that binds Chorazos, the cult of Cthulhu, and whatever other freakyass cults are out there. |
That's actually what I was thinking, sorry if you got the wrong idea.
While it sounds crazy, I have to say that the whole shape-shifter idea does sound like the most plausible theory we've got at the moment. One difference I'd say: I don't think Spooky can take any form he wants. I think it's more likely that he can do some sort of ritual in which he can steal/copy the body of somebody else. This would fit with the comment in Anwell's letter about "the face you stole from me." He can steal people's faces but he can't become anybody he likes. If he could take any form he wanted he could be doing a lot more damage than he is currently. _________________ WHO IS SAINT FENLINE?
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Biff

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Except for...
well...
This |
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Jjason

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Except for...
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This |
The picture and the video look like the same person to me. _________________ WHO IS SAINT FENLINE?
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Obtusitivity

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Okay so I've looked over the articles and letters and such that we've gathered. Here's a list of the FACTS, followed by a comprehensive "story" of what happened:
ARTICLE ABOUT BARIERASCU:
- Barierascu Charitable Fund gives lots of money to adoption facilities and such.
- Barierascu family estate is in Chorazin, NY.
- ANWELL was adopted by JORMA in 1943. ANWELL was 2 years old at the time.
- JORMA was adopted by VEKOSLAV in the late 1890s.
- JORMA died in 1962
- The Barierascu family has been into adoption for 6 generations.
- ANWELL has a son named GUSTEV, who he adopted in 1987. GUSTEV was at least 2 years old at the time, putting his birth year around 1984-85.
EMAIL FROM PETER ABOUT BARIERASCU
- Magicians have been known to make "black pilgrimage[s]" to Chorazin.
- There is a point of importance that I have not yet fully deciphered, but it goes something like this: "and some of them like Parsons made a point to flaunt Agreements they did not participate in by detailing the oaths it led to for others to try and follow." My take on that is that some magicians talk explicitly about agreements that they don't take part in and try to get other people to take part in them. Could this be the "Bargain" that Spukhafte refers to? (see the Chorazos Message)
- GUSTAV buried his father, ANWELL, in 2005.
- The Barierascu "family estate" belonged to a family known as the "van der Hyle"s prior to Vekoslav's purchase of the plot shortly before his death.
EDDIE POPE RESEARCH ON CHORAZOS
- "Modern record have the cult's HQ in upstate New York, near the Attica state penitentiary." It just so happens that the Barierascu family estate is near Attica.
EXU'S LETTER
- The names JORMA and ANWELL are crossed out in the "to" line, replaced by the name GUSTEV.
- For fourty-six years, the author has been hiding. Going back 46 years from 2008 puts us at 1962.
- The author has been waiting for GUSTEV to throw away what he stole from the author, while the author still has what GUSTEV wants.
- The author seems to have the upper hand, as GUSTEV's greed is enabling the author's plots.
- The author can see GUSTEV's dreams, in which GUSTEV desires artifacts from Yian-Ho that GUSTEV left behind. The author has relocated these artifacts to a more safe location.
- The author deciphered the [Book of the Hidden] and used the knowledge therein to open the "gate with the silver key" which then allowed him to read what was contained in the Temple of Yian-Ho. (Which GUSTEV has been searching for)
- The author has the upper hand over GUSTEV because he still has the "face" that GUSTEV stole from him.
- GUSTEV is of the mistaken belief that he killed the author, and this has allowed the author to learn more about GUSTEV than GUSTEV would like.
- The author explicitly states his desire to destroy GUSTEV's work. He specifically mentions a bargain. (see the Chorazos Message)
- GUSTEV is the author's father.
- The author calls himself ANWELL Barierascu, and claims that by killing GUSTEV, he will commit patricide.
WHEW!
That's a LOT of information. Some of it is very contradictory. For example: in the letter, Anwell Barierascu claims that Gustev is his father, when Gustev is actually his adopted son. However, as the letter seems to have been addressed primarily to Anwell's father Jorma, this may make more sense. Why Jorma and Anwell are both on the "to" line and are both crossed out is unknown. I will give a possible explanation below.
NOW, on to speculation. Here is the story as I believe happened. It takes the following assumption to be true: SPUKHAFTE FERNWIRKUNG is actually an ageless shapeshifter, incapable of growing older and capable of becoming whatever person he desires.
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Sometime in the 1800s, Spukhafte Fernwirkung bought the van der Hyle family estate in Chorazin. He did this under the name of Vekoslav Barierascu. Vekoslav then proceeded to adopt a son and heir in the 1890s, who was a man named Jorma. This swiftly became (if it was not already) a highly occult site, and the center of operations for the newest form of the Chorazos Cult. At some point afterwards, Vekoslav killed Jorma and shapeshifted into Jorma's body, becoming his son. This is when Vekoslav died.
Jorma took over Chorazos (rather, as the same person, he continued running it). In 1943 he killed Anwell's parents and "saved" the 2-year-old baby from adoption. He raised Anwell as his son and heir. When Anwell was 21 years old (1941-1962), Anwell discovered that his father, Jorma, had in fact murdered his parents. At that time, Jorma attempted to kill Anwell. Anwell survived, but Jorma believed that his son was actually dead. With Anwell out of the way, Jorma took on Anwell's persona and Jorma "died". Seeing that his father had taken over his life, Anwell changed his name to Jakub U (since he never did tell his students his real last name, he probably doesn't actually have one). He also took on the online monkier "eXu" at some point.
Anwell then became the head honcho of Chorazos. He continued what he had been doing for the past many-score years as the top of the Chorazos chain (while leading Chorazos, he called himself Spukhafte Fernwirkung). Meanwhile, Jakub became a professor at Miskatonic University and a prominent member of the Council. He also at some point became a powerful magician specializing in dreams, enabling him to rifle through his "father"s dreams, thus learning what his father desired from Yian-Ho. He then proceeded to hide the artifacts his "father" sought. This powerful magic that he learned to wield in regards to dreams also enabled him to manifest as the Drummer in the Dreamscape, which he would subsequently use to guide BA and learn about Emmet. Or something.
Meanwhile, Anwell adopted another heir in 1987, who he called Gustev. Gustev grew up and when he was around 21, in 2005, Anwell killed him and took over his body, as he had done to his many other adopted sons previously. As usual, when Anwell became Gustev, Anwell died, and Gustev's actual body was likely used as a proxy for Anwell, because Anwell was not the *actual* dead one. (I'm sorry for the weird name-changing business, but that's the problem with immortal shapeshifters like Spukhafte) Jakub watched this under the protection of an assumed death, and set his plans in motion to get his revenge and probably take down Chorazos at the same time.
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Did you follow that? It has only one flaw--which is that if the Barierascu Article that Johnny the Hack picked up was written in 2006, which I believe it was (Anwell born in 1941, and the article mentions him being 65 years old), then Anwell should have been dead. Because supposedly Anwell died in 2005. But that might have been an error of the author's, as he might have gotten confused over the whole shape-shifting thing. Of course, that assumes that the author is in the know about Spukehafte's true nature.
This speculation would also explain the odd three-named "to" line in eXu's letter (also known as Jakub U or Anwell Barierascu). Jakub first knew Spukhafte as his father, Jorma, which is why he keeps referring to his murder of Spukhafte as "patricide." However, he also knows that Spukhafte is no longer Jorma (hence the crossout), and he is no longer Anwell (hence the crossout), and he is now Gustev.
PS: I have something entirely different to say, this time about the Bargain: I like Jjason's spec that the Bargain is an "evil Agreement" but I do not think it is simply between members of Chorazos. Just like the Agreement covers all sorts of Council members (Forsythe/Knights of Mars Nodens, the Esoteric, and whatever organizations fight on the Temporal and Physical fronts), I believe the Bargain is some sort of inter-cult Agreement. So it's a Bargain that binds Chorazos, the cult of Cthulhu, and whatever other freakyass cults are out there. |
thank god for Dav...
alrighty -- now i feel like i understand what the fuck happened last week when i was out of comission....everything went fucking nuts. _________________ Even a monkey can sing along to Mozart, but that doesn't mean he knows the words - Obtusitivity |
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Johnny The Hack

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...They must be whole, for I must reduce their bodies to their essential salts for interrogation...
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Brings to mind the curious case of mental patient that was committed in Providence, Rhode Island, of all places, circa 1928. Just a coincidence I'm sure, but maybe someone should look it up. I think his name was Chester Ward... Daryl Ward... something like that. |
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Jjason

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...They must be whole, for I must reduce their bodies to their essential salts for interrogation...
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Brings to mind the curious case of mental patient that was committed in Providence, Rhode Island, of all places, circa 1928. Just a coincidence I'm sure, but maybe someone should look it up. I think his name was Chester Ward... Daryl Ward... something like that. |
Well I don't know anything about that, but I did find a heavy metal song about reducing people to their essential salts for purposes of interrogation. Education! listen here and read the lyrics. _________________ WHO IS SAINT FENLINE?
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Tessla
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don't know if someone else has noticed this before. This is from an email by Peter, that i found in the Spukhafte Fernwirkung thread (research).
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all the same person, but wouldn't know it, and we would be really curious if we looked at the dates. this seems to support dav's theory. |
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Johnny The Hack

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Well I don't know anything about that, but I did find a heavy metal song about reducing people to their essential salts for purposes of interrogation. Education! listen here and read the lyrics. |
You might be putting the chicken before the egg.
But regarding our current working theory:
Way back when I first read that article in the beginning of the year, the Barierascu family really reminded me of the Waites of Arkham, MA. I’d forgotten about that, or even what the article was about until just now when I read Dav’s hypothesis, which would give the Barieascu’s a similar modus operandi as old Ephraim Waite and his heirs, until Daniel Upton put six bullets in the last one’s head.
But let me suggest, based on that prior case, that maybe Spukhafte isn’t a shape shifter. My competing theory is that it is more likely he’s shifting his mind than his body. Which is kind of a raw deal for the younger party in that particular exchange. I can understand why poor Anwell would be pissed at his dear old adopted dad.
But if Anwell is still around, that means he’s given some poor slob the shaft in turn, thus surrendering the moral high ground. |
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